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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Imaging the pressure on a GOP governor of GA if he gets convicted. Kemp might just ride it out, though.

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    #25

    @jon-nyc said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

    Imaging the pressure on a GOP governor of GA if he gets convicted. Kemp might just ride it out, though.

    Hence my “Kemp is having a helluva week “ post

    The Brad

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
      More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?

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      @Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

      How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
      More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?

      A couple of posts behind… But here’s one for you. What if Trump runs on the premise that he’s going to jail and has personally selected ————— (VP) to serve in his stead as a surrogate. Trump gets to be elected president Aaaand gets to be kingmaker all at the same time.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

        How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
        More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?

        A couple of posts behind… But here’s one for you. What if Trump runs on the premise that he’s going to jail and has personally selected ————— (VP) to serve in his stead as a surrogate. Trump gets to be elected president Aaaand gets to be kingmaker all at the same time.

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        @LuFins-Dad said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

        @Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

        How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
        More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?

        A couple of posts behind… But here’s one for you. What if Trump runs on the premise that he’s going to jail and has personally selected ————— (VP) to serve in his stead as a surrogate. Trump gets to be elected president Aaaand gets to be kingmaker all at the same time.

        That would require Trump publicly admitting to (1) losing all these court cases, (2) going to jail, (3) his inability to do the POTUS job. You think Trump will be willing to admit to any of those?

        Even if that’s the plan, when do you think the Trump campaign will publicly say that that is the plan? When do you think would be the best (or “least bad”) time for a Presidential campaign to make such a public announcement? Before Iowa/New Hampshire primaries? Before South Carolina? Before Super Tuesday? After the the primary? At the national Republican Convention?

        And imagine the campaign ads and talking points from Trump’s opponents after the Trump campaign announces such a plan!

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @LuFins-Dad said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

          @Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

          How will the Trumpists react if a VP were to invoke the 25th on Trump?
          More peaceful selfie-takings at or near the White House?

          A couple of posts behind… But here’s one for you. What if Trump runs on the premise that he’s going to jail and has personally selected ————— (VP) to serve in his stead as a surrogate. Trump gets to be elected president Aaaand gets to be kingmaker all at the same time.

          That would require Trump publicly admitting to (1) losing all these court cases, (2) going to jail, (3) his inability to do the POTUS job. You think Trump will be willing to admit to any of those?

          Even if that’s the plan, when do you think the Trump campaign will publicly say that that is the plan? When do you think would be the best (or “least bad”) time for a Presidential campaign to make such a public announcement? Before Iowa/New Hampshire primaries? Before South Carolina? Before Super Tuesday? After the the primary? At the national Republican Convention?

          And imagine the campaign ads and talking points from Trump’s opponents after the Trump campaign announces such a plan!

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          @Axtremus said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

          You think Trump will be willing to admit to any of those?

          Why would he?

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          • HoraceH Horace

            If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.

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            @Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

            If Vivek accepts a VP position, he'll make himself a liar, as he's been clear that he would not accept, if offered.

            There's a first time for everything in politics.

            I was only joking

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              Well reasoned and stated. My daughter and I had a similar if in much more depth conversation on the way today.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-presidential-candidate-vivek-ramaswamy-221416646.html

                "Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said China could invade Taiwan without major consequences from the U.S. once he has hypothetically attained the nation’s “semiconductor independence” in 2028."

                ANd I am guessing he will solve the Ukraine invasion the same way.

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                  #32

                  Heard the first fringey think from Vivek recently. He hand waves our participation in the Ukraine war as motivated entirely by bribes to Biden via Hunter. I’m all for pushing back against the moral panic that is American culture’s support for Ukraine, but the notion that it would be totally different without the Hunter bribes is ridiculous.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    Heard the first fringey think from Vivek recently. He hand waves our participation in the Ukraine war as motivated entirely by bribes to Biden via Hunter. I’m all for pushing back against the moral panic that is American culture’s support for Ukraine, but the notion that it would be totally different without the Hunter bribes is ridiculous.

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                    @Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

                    Heard the first fringey think from Vivek recently. He hand waves our participation in the Ukraine war as motivated entirely by bribes to Biden via Hunter. I’m all for pushing back against the moral panic that is American culture’s support for Ukraine, but the notion that it would be totally different without the Hunter bribes is ridiculous.

                    Yeah, that's nuts. Is he saying this because he actually believes it, or is he pandering to capture the crazy vote?

                    I was only joking

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                      I assume he believes it. It’s not hard to game out as a bad political message in the general.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I assume he believes it. It’s not hard to game out as a bad political message in the general.

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                        @Horace said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

                        I assume he believes it. It’s not hard to game out as a bad political message in the general.

                        Kinda' weird, then. Still, it might be less disconcerting for a fair chunk of potential voters than the fact that he's a Hindu.

                        I was only joking

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          Heard the first fringey think from Vivek recently. He hand waves our participation in the Ukraine war as motivated entirely by bribes to Biden via Hunter. I’m all for pushing back against the moral panic that is American culture’s support for Ukraine, but the notion that it would be totally different without the Hunter bribes is ridiculous.

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                          @Horace

                          I’m all for pushing back against the moral panic that is American culture’s support for Ukraine….

                          I am not seeing any moral panic in American culture in support of Ukraine. I am afraid that I am just not that plugged into the progressive beat you claim is out there.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @Horace

                            I’m all for pushing back against the moral panic that is American culture’s support for Ukraine….

                            I am not seeing any moral panic in American culture in support of Ukraine. I am afraid that I am just not that plugged into the progressive beat you claim is out there.

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                            @Renauda said in Vivek on the "Tyranny of the Minority":

                            @Horace

                            I’m all for pushing back against the moral panic that is American culture’s support for Ukraine….

                            I am not seeing any moral panic in American culture in support of Ukraine. I am afraid that I am just not that plugged into the progressive beat you claim is out there.

                            ad homs about low moral character are the first line of defense against anybody not fully on board with a pro Ukraine narrative. I don’t mean that’s the only reason anybody wants the US to support Ukraine. I just mean that’s the reasoning of the masses.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              #38

                              ad homs don’t make it as moral indignation or outrage in this instance. You ought to hear the ad homs coming from the other side.

                              Elbows up!

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