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  • JollyJ Offline
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    THE chip maker...

    https://www.nationandstate.com/2021/06/21/meet-the-one-chipmaker-the-entire-world-is-now-depending-on/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      China smiled laughed.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        https://www.businessinsider.nl/the-worlds-largest-chipmaker-promised-to-create-thousands-of-us-jobs-there-are-growing-tensions-over-whether-us-workers-have-the-skills-or-work-ethic-to-do-them/

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          https://www.businessinsider.nl/the-worlds-largest-chipmaker-promised-to-create-thousands-of-us-jobs-there-are-growing-tensions-over-whether-us-workers-have-the-skills-or-work-ethic-to-do-them/

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          @taiwan_girl said in TSMC:

          https://www.businessinsider.nl/the-worlds-largest-chipmaker-promised-to-create-thousands-of-us-jobs-there-are-growing-tensions-over-whether-us-workers-have-the-skills-or-work-ethic-to-do-them/

          I’ve been saying that for decades. I have no interest in “Made In America”…

          The Brad

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            Link to video

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            • George KG Offline
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              Chinese Chips:

              In 2020, Chinese chip champion Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. was two or three generations behind global leaders. Today, following several rounds of crippling U.S. sanctions against the Chinese semiconductor sector, the People's Republic's chip industry is at least five generations behind — and the gap can expand, according to Gerald Yin, chief executive of Advanced Micro-Fabrication Equipment Inc., a wafer fab equipment manufacturer from China, reports DigiTimes.

              The past two U.S. administrations have introduced 15 semiconductor-focused sanctions to keep China's semiconductor production technologies generations behind the global leaders — namely Intel from the U.S., Samsung from South Korea, and TSMC from Taiwan. Back in 2020, SMIC was about to start making chips on its 7nm-class manufacturing process that featured a logic transistor density akin to that of TSMC's N7 and Intel's 10nm. At the time, SMIC was a couple of generations behind TSMC, which was gearing up to start production of chips on its N5 (5nm-class) node.

              But the sweeping sanctions imposed by the U.S. government on October 7, 2022, and followed by Japan and the Netherlands in 2023, have set the Chinese semiconductor industry back by at least a decade. Wafer fab tools manufacturers need to obtain a special license to ship equipment that can be used to make logic chips with non-planar transistors on 14nm/16nm nodes and below, 3D NAND with 128 or more layers, and DRAM memory chips of 18nm half-pitch or less to a Chinese entity. This effectively limits China's semiconductor industry to 28nm and thicker nodes — unless it can come up with its own wafer fab tools, or the export licenses are granted.

              "China's leading-edge production is 14nm, where Taiwan, Korea, and the US are all ramping up production at 3nm. But most of China's fab capacity is even further behind, at 28nm. And 28nm kind of sucks.?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Chinese Chips:

                In 2020, Chinese chip champion Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. was two or three generations behind global leaders. Today, following several rounds of crippling U.S. sanctions against the Chinese semiconductor sector, the People's Republic's chip industry is at least five generations behind — and the gap can expand, according to Gerald Yin, chief executive of Advanced Micro-Fabrication Equipment Inc., a wafer fab equipment manufacturer from China, reports DigiTimes.

                The past two U.S. administrations have introduced 15 semiconductor-focused sanctions to keep China's semiconductor production technologies generations behind the global leaders — namely Intel from the U.S., Samsung from South Korea, and TSMC from Taiwan. Back in 2020, SMIC was about to start making chips on its 7nm-class manufacturing process that featured a logic transistor density akin to that of TSMC's N7 and Intel's 10nm. At the time, SMIC was a couple of generations behind TSMC, which was gearing up to start production of chips on its N5 (5nm-class) node.

                But the sweeping sanctions imposed by the U.S. government on October 7, 2022, and followed by Japan and the Netherlands in 2023, have set the Chinese semiconductor industry back by at least a decade. Wafer fab tools manufacturers need to obtain a special license to ship equipment that can be used to make logic chips with non-planar transistors on 14nm/16nm nodes and below, 3D NAND with 128 or more layers, and DRAM memory chips of 18nm half-pitch or less to a Chinese entity. This effectively limits China's semiconductor industry to 28nm and thicker nodes — unless it can come up with its own wafer fab tools, or the export licenses are granted.

                "China's leading-edge production is 14nm, where Taiwan, Korea, and the US are all ramping up production at 3nm. But most of China's fab capacity is even further behind, at 28nm. And 28nm kind of sucks.?

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                @George-K said in TSMC:

                And 28nm kind of sucks.?

                Using Apple Inc.'s timeline, 28nm was used in Apple's A7 chip, introduced in 2013, the flagship iPhone back then was the 5S, ten years ago!

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                  Watch the Vivek interview on TuCa's Twitter - go to about 25:00...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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