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As a species we have a short memory

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    Hmm, I partially agree. I think that economics will be a big factor in the decision to invade Taiwan. President Xi is a smart guy, and he is already struggling with a tough economic problem at home. Unemployment rate for people in their 20's is >21%. He saw the West response to Ukraine/Russia and the devastation it is doing to Russia long term.

    If he invades Taiwan, bye bye to China.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      Hmm, I partially agree. I think that economics will be a big factor in the decision to invade Taiwan. President Xi is a smart guy, and he is already struggling with a tough economic problem at home. Unemployment rate for people in their 20's is >21%. He saw the West response to Ukraine/Russia and the devastation it is doing to Russia long term.

      If he invades Taiwan, bye bye to China.

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      @taiwan_girl said in As a species we have a short memory:

      Hmm, I partially agree. I think that economics will be a big factor in the decision to invade Taiwan. President Xi is a smart guy, and he is already struggling with a tough economic problem at home. Unemployment rate for people in their 20's is >21%. He saw the West response to Ukraine/Russia and the devastation it is doing to Russia long term.

      If he invades Taiwan, bye bye to China.

      Except Taiwan could be an economic boon for China. That could give him incentive.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @taiwan_girl said in As a species we have a short memory:

        Hmm, I partially agree. I think that economics will be a big factor in the decision to invade Taiwan. President Xi is a smart guy, and he is already struggling with a tough economic problem at home. Unemployment rate for people in their 20's is >21%. He saw the West response to Ukraine/Russia and the devastation it is doing to Russia long term.

        If he invades Taiwan, bye bye to China.

        Except Taiwan could be an economic boon for China. That could give him incentive.

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        @Aqua-Letifer not to mention a huge source of national pride if the economy is sputtering.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Yes, but............. if China invades Taiwan, what is to stop companies from pulling out of Taiwan? Taiwan only has a population of about 22MM. China is at least 50 times bigger. Taiwan is obviously big in semi conductors (TMSC for example), but reality is that if companies are able to exit Russia, and life goes on, the same could happen to Taiwan. :(. I just think that there are a lot more negative economic things that can happen vs. positive things for mainland China

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            Yes, but............. if China invades Taiwan, what is to stop companies from pulling out of Taiwan? Taiwan only has a population of about 22MM. China is at least 50 times bigger. Taiwan is obviously big in semi conductors (TMSC for example), but reality is that if companies are able to exit Russia, and life goes on, the same could happen to Taiwan. :(. I just think that there are a lot more negative economic things that can happen vs. positive things for mainland China

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            @taiwan_girl said in As a species we have a short memory:

            Yes, but............. if China invades Taiwan, what is to stop companies from pulling out of Taiwan?

            Physical reality.

            The companies can pull out, but the factories and warehouses will still be there, which the Chinese can then take over and use. There quite a few high-end factories in Taiwan that have sophisticated equipment that could be well-used by anybody who has access to them.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @taiwan_girl said in As a species we have a short memory:

              Yes, but............. if China invades Taiwan, what is to stop companies from pulling out of Taiwan?

              Physical reality.

              The companies can pull out, but the factories and warehouses will still be there, which the Chinese can then take over and use. There quite a few high-end factories in Taiwan that have sophisticated equipment that could be well-used by anybody who has access to them.

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              @Aqua-Letifer said in As a species we have a short memory:

              The companies can pull out, but the factories and warehouses will still be there, which the Chinese can then take over and use. There quite a few high-end factories in Taiwan that have sophisticated equipment that could be well-used by anybody who has access to them.

              Sophisticated equipment can be artfully rendered inoperable.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Aqua-Letifer said in As a species we have a short memory:

                The companies can pull out, but the factories and warehouses will still be there, which the Chinese can then take over and use. There quite a few high-end factories in Taiwan that have sophisticated equipment that could be well-used by anybody who has access to them.

                Sophisticated equipment can be artfully rendered inoperable.

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                @Axtremus said in As a species we have a short memory:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in As a species we have a short memory:

                The companies can pull out, but the factories and warehouses will still be there, which the Chinese can then take over and use. There quite a few high-end factories in Taiwan that have sophisticated equipment that could be well-used by anybody who has access to them.

                Sophisticated equipment can be artfully rendered inoperable.

                Who's going to do that, the workers? Why tank their opportunity to keep working at the factory under different management? Things would be bad enough under a Chinese takeover without worrying about where to work after the dust settles.

                Please love yourself.

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                  There is a pretty high anti-mainland Chinese sentiment in Taiwan right now. I think that there would be quite a bit of "gorilla" warfare and resistance to any invasion.

                  A few years ago, there was a much higher % of people who favored closer ties with mainland China (but not to the point of integration).

                  Now, that number is very very low.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Axtremus said in As a species we have a short memory:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in As a species we have a short memory:

                    The companies can pull out, but the factories and warehouses will still be there, which the Chinese can then take over and use. There quite a few high-end factories in Taiwan that have sophisticated equipment that could be well-used by anybody who has access to them.

                    Sophisticated equipment can be artfully rendered inoperable.

                    Who's going to do that, the workers? Why tank their opportunity to keep working at the factory under different management? Things would be bad enough under a Chinese takeover without worrying about where to work after the dust settles.

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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in As a species we have a short memory:

                    Who's going to do that, the workers? Why tank their opportunity to keep working at the factory under different management? Things would be bad enough under a Chinese takeover without worrying about where to work after the dust settles.

                    You assume every worker is amenable to working for the CCP.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in As a species we have a short memory:

                      Who's going to do that, the workers? Why tank their opportunity to keep working at the factory under different management? Things would be bad enough under a Chinese takeover without worrying about where to work after the dust settles.

                      You assume every worker is amenable to working for the CCP.

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                      @Axtremus said in As a species we have a short memory:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in As a species we have a short memory:

                      Who's going to do that, the workers? Why tank their opportunity to keep working at the factory under different management? Things would be bad enough under a Chinese takeover without worrying about where to work after the dust settles.

                      You assume every worker is amenable to working for the CCP.

                      No, I'm assuming every worker is more amenable to working than not working at all.

                      Please love yourself.

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