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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 11:21 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Oct 2023, 11:22
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    So, the UK government has announced they're abandoning the use of a British approval mark for goods sold in the UK, and are going to use the European CE marking going forward.

    Essentially, what this means is that Britain will be required to continue to follow European legislation but will have no influence shaping the legislation since they're not part of the EU.

    Nice going, Tory fuckwits. Oh, and let's not forget fuckwit-in-chief Nigel Farage! A triumph for British self-governance!

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukca-marking-conformity-assessment-and-documentation.

    Obviously, nobody's heard about any of this, you won't see it reported anywhere. I only found out because of my job.

    I was only joking

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      Mik
      wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 12:10 last edited by
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      Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • M Mik
        10 Aug 2023, 12:10

        Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 12:18 last edited by
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        @Mik said in Another Brexit triumph:

        Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.

        Not at all - there was the huge banking scandal last month, where Coutts Bank tried to cancel his account, almost certainly for political reasons. It ended up with the head of the NatWest bank, a one of the major UK banks, having to resign for disclosing information about his account.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66309080

        I was only joking

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          10 Aug 2023, 12:18

          @Mik said in Another Brexit triumph:

          Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.

          Not at all - there was the huge banking scandal last month, where Coutts Bank tried to cancel his account, almost certainly for political reasons. It ended up with the head of the NatWest bank, a one of the major UK banks, having to resign for disclosing information about his account.

          https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66309080

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          George K
          wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 12:21 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Another Brexit triumph:

          @Mik said in Another Brexit triumph:

          Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.

          Not at all - there was the huge banking scandal last month

          https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/25432/no-banking-for-you/4?_=1691670016762

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 12:38 last edited by
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            Anyway, getting back to the OP.

            A lot of time and money has been spent on implementing the UKCA certification mark. Now, the UK government is basically just walking away from it, and essentially allowing Brussels dictate what can and cannot be sold in the UK.

            It's unbelievable.

            I was only joking

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              10 Aug 2023, 12:38

              Anyway, getting back to the OP.

              A lot of time and money has been spent on implementing the UKCA certification mark. Now, the UK government is basically just walking away from it, and essentially allowing Brussels dictate what can and cannot be sold in the UK.

              It's unbelievable.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 16:30 last edited by
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              @Doctor-Phibes How big a difference is there (was there) between the two.

              I would think that UK biggest trade partner is Europe and the Europe would want any imports to meet their regualations.

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              • T taiwan_girl
                10 Aug 2023, 16:30

                @Doctor-Phibes How big a difference is there (was there) between the two.

                I would think that UK biggest trade partner is Europe and the Europe would want any imports to meet their regualations.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 18:04 last edited by
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                @taiwan_girl said in Another Brexit triumph:

                @Doctor-Phibes How big a difference is there (was there) between the two.

                I would think that UK biggest trade partner is Europe and the Europe would want any imports to meet their regualations.

                There was absolutely no difference between the UKCA regulations and EU regulations. At least for the work I do. What there was was a completely new government bureaucracy which forced manufacturers to get UKCA approval on top of what they already had for EU approval. In addition, certification bodies needed to seek accreditation to be able to provide the UK certification.

                Removing the UKCA certification isn't a bad idea. It was a stupid idea. Beyond stupid.

                The point is, the UK isn't operating independently of the EU, as was claimed during Brexit. They still have to follow all of the EU laws. Except now, they have no influence.

                I was only joking

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 18:28 last edited by
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                  Regulation without representation.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 19:03 last edited by
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                    What does UKCA stand for?
                    I keep thinking it may be a curse word.

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                    • A Axtremus
                      10 Aug 2023, 19:03

                      What does UKCA stand for?
                      I keep thinking it may be a curse word.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 20:16 last edited by
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                      @Axtremus said in Another Brexit triumph:

                      What does UKCA stand for?
                      I keep thinking it may be a curse word.

                      It should be, but it means UK Conformity Assessed.

                      Unlike CE, which means Chinese Export.

                      I was only joking

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 20:36 last edited by
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                        You can't spell Triumph without Trump.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • H Horace
                          10 Aug 2023, 20:36

                          You can't spell Triumph without Trump.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 21:53 last edited by
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                          @Horace said in Another Brexit triumph:

                          You can't spell Triumph without Trump.

                          In England we famously had King Cnut failing to overturn the inevitable , and you in turn had something remarkably similar

                          I was only joking

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                            10 Aug 2023, 20:36

                            You can't spell Triumph without Trump.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 01:01 last edited by
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                            @Horace said in Another Brexit triumph:

                            You can't spell Triumph without Trump.

                            Never heard of a Trump motorcycle. Must be a cheap foreign built knock off.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • R Renauda
                              11 Aug 2023, 01:01

                              @Horace said in Another Brexit triumph:

                              You can't spell Triumph without Trump.

                              Never heard of a Trump motorcycle. Must be a cheap foreign built knock off.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 15:05 last edited by
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                              @Renauda said in Another Brexit triumph:

                              @Horace said in Another Brexit triumph:

                              You can't spell Triumph without Trump.

                              Never heard of a Trump motorcycle. Must be a cheap foreign built knock off.

                              They're the kind that make a lot of noise but can't really take you anywhere you want to go.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 15:07 last edited by
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                                I was only joking

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                                  11 Aug 2023, 15:07

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 16:25 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes obviously a photoshop.

                                  If it had been a real photo, he would have been wearing a helmet and riding a trike.

                                  You know, something like this.

                                  image.jpeg

                                  Or this...

                                  Screenshot 2023-08-11 at 11.23.29 AM.png

                                  Or this...

                                  Screenshot 2023-08-11 at 11.23.38 AM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Rainman
                                    wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 16:45 last edited by
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                                    Phibes, you were always willing to explain the issues during brexit. But isn't at least some of the blame for the issues you now present due to a weak House? They seem so namby-pamby compared to the good old days.
                                    Unfortunately, like everybody else, I haven't been paying attention to brexit-related issues as much as I should have, haven't watched Prime Minister's Questions in a long time, other than brief glimpses.

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                                    • R Rainman
                                      11 Aug 2023, 16:45

                                      Phibes, you were always willing to explain the issues during brexit. But isn't at least some of the blame for the issues you now present due to a weak House? They seem so namby-pamby compared to the good old days.
                                      Unfortunately, like everybody else, I haven't been paying attention to brexit-related issues as much as I should have, haven't watched Prime Minister's Questions in a long time, other than brief glimpses.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 17:06 last edited by
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                                      @Rainman said in Another Brexit triumph:

                                      Phibes, you were always willing to explain the issues during brexit. But isn't at least some of the blame for the issues you now present due to a weak House? They seem so namby-pamby compared to the good old days.
                                      Unfortunately, like everybody else, I haven't been paying attention to brexit-related issues as much as I should have, haven't watched Prime Minister's Questions in a long time, other than brief glimpses.

                                      The real issue for Brexit is that Britain being independent of Europe is a fantasy.

                                      Britain's mostly moved on, which explains why this latest debacle isn't even being reported. Most people in the UK don't understand what CE Marking even means, but as long as they keep the pound and buy beer in pints, they think they're living free and independent of Brussels.

                                      Politically, the Conservatives have reached the end of the line. It would take a miracle for them to win the next election. The real question is whether there'll need to be a coalition or not, since Labour can't really hope for a majority in Scotland.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • G George K
                                        11 Aug 2023, 16:25

                                        @Doctor-Phibes obviously a photoshop.

                                        If it had been a real photo, he would have been wearing a helmet and riding a trike.

                                        You know, something like this.

                                        image.jpeg

                                        Or this...

                                        Screenshot 2023-08-11 at 11.23.29 AM.png

                                        Or this...

                                        Screenshot 2023-08-11 at 11.23.38 AM.png

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 00:38 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @George-K My attempt

                                        446849_President Trump wearing a helmet, riding a trike. _xl-1024-v1-0.png

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                                        • T taiwan_girl
                                          12 Aug 2023, 00:38

                                          @George-K My attempt

                                          446849_President Trump wearing a helmet, riding a trike. _xl-1024-v1-0.png

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 00:45 last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Another Brexit triumph:

                                          @George-K My attempt

                                          Wonderful!

                                          How did you do that?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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