Another Brexit triumph
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 11:21 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Oct 2023, 11:22
So, the UK government has announced they're abandoning the use of a British approval mark for goods sold in the UK, and are going to use the European CE marking going forward.
Essentially, what this means is that Britain will be required to continue to follow European legislation but will have no influence shaping the legislation since they're not part of the EU.
Nice going, Tory fuckwits. Oh, and let's not forget fuckwit-in-chief Nigel Farage! A triumph for British self-governance!
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukca-marking-conformity-assessment-and-documentation.
Obviously, nobody's heard about any of this, you won't see it reported anywhere. I only found out because of my job.
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 12:10 last edited by
Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 12:18 last edited by
@Mik said in Another Brexit triumph:
Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.
Not at all - there was the huge banking scandal last month, where Coutts Bank tried to cancel his account, almost certainly for political reasons. It ended up with the head of the NatWest bank, a one of the major UK banks, having to resign for disclosing information about his account.
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@Mik said in Another Brexit triumph:
Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.
Not at all - there was the huge banking scandal last month, where Coutts Bank tried to cancel his account, almost certainly for political reasons. It ended up with the head of the NatWest bank, a one of the major UK banks, having to resign for disclosing information about his account.
wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 12:21 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Another Brexit triumph:
@Mik said in Another Brexit triumph:
Where is Nigel these days? he' seems out of the news.
Not at all - there was the huge banking scandal last month
https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/25432/no-banking-for-you/4?_=1691670016762
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 12:38 last edited by
Anyway, getting back to the OP.
A lot of time and money has been spent on implementing the UKCA certification mark. Now, the UK government is basically just walking away from it, and essentially allowing Brussels dictate what can and cannot be sold in the UK.
It's unbelievable.
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Anyway, getting back to the OP.
A lot of time and money has been spent on implementing the UKCA certification mark. Now, the UK government is basically just walking away from it, and essentially allowing Brussels dictate what can and cannot be sold in the UK.
It's unbelievable.
wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 16:30 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes How big a difference is there (was there) between the two.
I would think that UK biggest trade partner is Europe and the Europe would want any imports to meet their regualations.
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@Doctor-Phibes How big a difference is there (was there) between the two.
I would think that UK biggest trade partner is Europe and the Europe would want any imports to meet their regualations.
wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 18:04 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Another Brexit triumph:
@Doctor-Phibes How big a difference is there (was there) between the two.
I would think that UK biggest trade partner is Europe and the Europe would want any imports to meet their regualations.
There was absolutely no difference between the UKCA regulations and EU regulations. At least for the work I do. What there was was a completely new government bureaucracy which forced manufacturers to get UKCA approval on top of what they already had for EU approval. In addition, certification bodies needed to seek accreditation to be able to provide the UK certification.
Removing the UKCA certification isn't a bad idea. It was a stupid idea. Beyond stupid.
The point is, the UK isn't operating independently of the EU, as was claimed during Brexit. They still have to follow all of the EU laws. Except now, they have no influence.
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 18:28 last edited by
Regulation without representation.
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 19:03 last edited by
What does UKCA stand for?
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 20:16 last edited by
@Axtremus said in Another Brexit triumph:
What does UKCA stand for?
I keep thinking it may be a curse word.It should be, but it means UK Conformity Assessed.
Unlike CE, which means Chinese Export.
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 20:36 last edited by
You can't spell Triumph without Trump.
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wrote on 10 Aug 2023, 21:53 last edited by
@Horace said in Another Brexit triumph:
You can't spell Triumph without Trump.
In England we famously had King Cnut failing to overturn the inevitable , and you in turn had something remarkably similar
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 01:01 last edited by
@Horace said in Another Brexit triumph:
You can't spell Triumph without Trump.
Never heard of a Trump motorcycle. Must be a cheap foreign built knock off.
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@Horace said in Another Brexit triumph:
You can't spell Triumph without Trump.
Never heard of a Trump motorcycle. Must be a cheap foreign built knock off.
wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 15:05 last edited by@Renauda said in Another Brexit triumph:
@Horace said in Another Brexit triumph:
You can't spell Triumph without Trump.
Never heard of a Trump motorcycle. Must be a cheap foreign built knock off.
They're the kind that make a lot of noise but can't really take you anywhere you want to go.
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 15:07 last edited by
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 16:25 last edited by
@Doctor-Phibes obviously a photoshop.
If it had been a real photo, he would have been wearing a helmet and riding a trike.
You know, something like this.
Or this...
Or this...
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wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 16:45 last edited by
Phibes, you were always willing to explain the issues during brexit. But isn't at least some of the blame for the issues you now present due to a weak House? They seem so namby-pamby compared to the good old days.
Unfortunately, like everybody else, I haven't been paying attention to brexit-related issues as much as I should have, haven't watched Prime Minister's Questions in a long time, other than brief glimpses. -
Phibes, you were always willing to explain the issues during brexit. But isn't at least some of the blame for the issues you now present due to a weak House? They seem so namby-pamby compared to the good old days.
Unfortunately, like everybody else, I haven't been paying attention to brexit-related issues as much as I should have, haven't watched Prime Minister's Questions in a long time, other than brief glimpses.wrote on 11 Aug 2023, 17:06 last edited by@Rainman said in Another Brexit triumph:
Phibes, you were always willing to explain the issues during brexit. But isn't at least some of the blame for the issues you now present due to a weak House? They seem so namby-pamby compared to the good old days.
Unfortunately, like everybody else, I haven't been paying attention to brexit-related issues as much as I should have, haven't watched Prime Minister's Questions in a long time, other than brief glimpses.The real issue for Brexit is that Britain being independent of Europe is a fantasy.
Britain's mostly moved on, which explains why this latest debacle isn't even being reported. Most people in the UK don't understand what CE Marking even means, but as long as they keep the pound and buy beer in pints, they think they're living free and independent of Brussels.
Politically, the Conservatives have reached the end of the line. It would take a miracle for them to win the next election. The real question is whether there'll need to be a coalition or not, since Labour can't really hope for a majority in Scotland.
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@Doctor-Phibes obviously a photoshop.
If it had been a real photo, he would have been wearing a helmet and riding a trike.
You know, something like this.
Or this...
Or this...
wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 00:38 last edited by@George-K My attempt
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@George-K My attempt
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