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Build a better battery?

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  • George KG Offline
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    https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/02/mit_concrete_battery

    The good part: "Researchers at MIT claim to have found a novel new way to store energy using nothing but cement, a bit of water, and powdered carbon black – a crystalline form of the element.

    The materials can be cleverly combined to create supercapacitors, which could in turn be used to build power-storing foundations of houses, roadways that could wirelessly charge vehicles, and serve as the foundation of wind turbines and other renewable energy systems – all while holding a surprising amount of energy, the team claims. "

    The bad part: "According to a paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 45 cubic meters of the carbon-black-doped cement could have enough capacity to store 10 kilowatt-hours of energy – roughly the amount an average household uses in a day. A block of cement that size would measure about 3.5 meters per side and, depending on the size of the house, the block could theoretically store all the energy an off-grid home using renewables would need."

    I don't know nearly enough about electricity and batteries...pershap @Doctor-Phibes can opine?

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    • George KG George K

      https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/02/mit_concrete_battery

      The good part: "Researchers at MIT claim to have found a novel new way to store energy using nothing but cement, a bit of water, and powdered carbon black – a crystalline form of the element.

      The materials can be cleverly combined to create supercapacitors, which could in turn be used to build power-storing foundations of houses, roadways that could wirelessly charge vehicles, and serve as the foundation of wind turbines and other renewable energy systems – all while holding a surprising amount of energy, the team claims. "

      The bad part: "According to a paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 45 cubic meters of the carbon-black-doped cement could have enough capacity to store 10 kilowatt-hours of energy – roughly the amount an average household uses in a day. A block of cement that size would measure about 3.5 meters per side and, depending on the size of the house, the block could theoretically store all the energy an off-grid home using renewables would need."

      I don't know nearly enough about electricity and batteries...pershap @Doctor-Phibes can opine?

      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      @George-K said in Build a better battery?:

      I don't know nearly enough about electricity and batteries...pershap @Doctor-Phibes can opine?

      I don't really know enough about them, either. Batteries do tend to have a much shorter life-span than houses, so I think that would be a major concern. Supercapacitors are being used quite a bit more now in electronics - often to provide a short-term high output.

      This does sound like something we could conceivably get involved with at work - my company has a lot of links with MIT, and also does a lot of work with using renewables safely with buildings.

      I was only joking

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      • George KG George K

        https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/02/mit_concrete_battery

        The good part: "Researchers at MIT claim to have found a novel new way to store energy using nothing but cement, a bit of water, and powdered carbon black – a crystalline form of the element.

        The materials can be cleverly combined to create supercapacitors, which could in turn be used to build power-storing foundations of houses, roadways that could wirelessly charge vehicles, and serve as the foundation of wind turbines and other renewable energy systems – all while holding a surprising amount of energy, the team claims. "

        The bad part: "According to a paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 45 cubic meters of the carbon-black-doped cement could have enough capacity to store 10 kilowatt-hours of energy – roughly the amount an average household uses in a day. A block of cement that size would measure about 3.5 meters per side and, depending on the size of the house, the block could theoretically store all the energy an off-grid home using renewables would need."

        I don't know nearly enough about electricity and batteries...pershap @Doctor-Phibes can opine?

        CopperC Offline
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        @George-K said in Build a better battery?:

        cement, a bit of water, and powdered carbon black

        pwned

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