So About This Russian Bounty Thing
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@Mik said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
I think that is entirely possible, given the track record.
Given the track record, it is more probable that the NYT and the AP report the truth, Bolton tells the truth, that Trump didn’t pay attention as to not remember or is lying.
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@Axtremus said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
@Mik said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
I think that is entirely possible, given the track record.
Given the track record, it is more probable that the NYT and the AP report the truth, Bolton tells the truth, that Trump didn’t pay attention as to not remember or is lying.
You can place your trust in the NYT if you wish. It's a fact that they have run with multiple stories in the last few years, that would not have stood scrutiny by a first year journalism student. It is also a fact that the paper is no longer as much concerned with unbiased reporting, as biased reporting. The paper not only reports what it feels is the news, but may go so far as to manufacture news. And it is also a fact that the staff of the paper has now determined its editorial page need not strive for any opinions that do not fit the staff's desired narrative.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Jolly said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
@Axtremus said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
@Mik said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
I think that is entirely possible, given the track record.
Given the track record, it is more probable that the NYT and the AP report the truth, Bolton tells the truth, that Trump didn’t pay attention as to not remember or is lying.
You can place your trust in the NYT if you wish. It's a fact that they have run with multiple stories in the last few years, that would not have stood scrutiny by a first year journalism student. It is also a fact that the paper is no longer as much concerned with unbiased reporting, as biased reporting. The paper not only reports what it feels is the news, but may go so far as to manufacture news. And it is also a fact that the staff of the paper has now determined its editorial page need not strive for any opinions that do not fit the staff's desired narrative.
Wherever feasible and where I have the interest, I try to look up the original sources and gather news on the same event from multiple publications, so placing trust in any one publication is just your red herring, not an issue at all.
If something ever comes down to either trusting the NYT or trusting whatever comes out of Trump’s mouth/twit/press secretary/communications director/spokesperson, the NYT is certainly the more trustworthy party, given the track record.
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@Axtremus said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
@Mik said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
I think that is entirely possible, given the track record.
Given the track record, it is more probable that the NYT and the AP report the truth, Bolton tells the truth, that Trump didn’t pay attention as to not remember or is lying.
This another perfect example of how the Left tells a lie, then lies about the lie, and then uses the second lie as proof the first lie is true - and then the gullible fools on the Left swallow it whole.
You and Jon have both claimed this was reported by both the NYT and the AP. That's a lie. The AP did NOT report this story. It reported on what Biden said ABOUT the story reported by the NYT. The NYT claims they got this information from an "anonymous source"... which is where all their "news stories" come from, and every single one of their "news stories" that have come from "anonymous sources" have turned out to be untrue.
The Russians have stated it's not true. The Taliban has stated it's not true. The Pentagon has said it's not true. Yet you leftwing morons ignore all that. You ignore the fact that no proof can be found whatsoever to back up the story, and like the gullible fools you are, buy into a lie that only the NYT and it's "anonymous sources" tell.
Sadly, you fools are allowed to vote...
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If something ever comes down to either trusting the NYT or trusting whatever comes out of Trump’s mouth/twit/press secretary/communications director/spokesperson, the NYT is certainly the more trustworthy party, given the track record.
The NYT is known for their lies reported as news coming through "anonymous sources". The only people who still believe the NYT is a trustworthy source these days are total morons.
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@Larry said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
You and Jon have both claimed this was reported by both the NYT and the AP. That's a lie. The AP did NOT report this story. It reported on what Biden said ABOUT the story reported by the NYT.
https://apnews.com/425e43fa0ffdd6e126c5171653ec47d1
The Russians have stated it's not true.
Oh, well why didn’t you tell me? They would definitely know if they paid bounties for dead US soldiers. So if they say it didn’t happen, it didn’t happen.
Never mind then.
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@Loki said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
I’m telling you Bolton’s book is a dud and he is trying to pump life into it with this story. The NYT hate Bolton more than life itself but are willing stooges in this story line.
Didn't Bolton say that he advised POTUS about the bounty, and then say he didn't know anything about it?
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@George-K said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
@Loki said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
I’m telling you Bolton’s book is a dud and he is trying to pump life into it with this story. The NYT hate Bolton more than life itself but are willing stooges in this story line.
Didn't Bolton say that he advised POTUS about the bounty, and then say he didn't know anything about it?
Yup.. he’s trying to distance himself while commenting on it and I’m sure whispering into others ears who whisper into others ears. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets confused, scared and ambivalent.
There’s a lot about Bolton that I’m sure he doesn’t want to see the light of day.
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@jon-nyc said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
@Larry said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
You and Jon have both claimed this was reported by both the NYT and the AP. That's a lie. The AP did NOT report this story. It reported on what Biden said ABOUT the story reported by the NYT.
https://apnews.com/425e43fa0ffdd6e126c5171653ec47d1
The Russians have stated it's not true.
Oh, well why didn’t you tell me? They would definitely know if they paid bounties for dead US soldiers. So if they say it didn’t happen, it didn’t happen.
Never mind then.
The Taliban also says it's not true. The Pentagon also says it's not true. You can remain stuck in sheep mode if you want, just don't expect me to join you in your delusion.
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@jon-nyc said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
@Larry said in So About This Russian Bounty Thing:
You and Jon have both claimed this was reported by both the NYT and the AP. That's a lie. The AP did NOT report this story. It reported on what Biden said ABOUT the story reported by the NYT.
https://apnews.com/425e43fa0ffdd6e126c5171653ec47d1
The Russians have stated it's not true.
Oh, well why didn’t you tell me? They would definitely know if they paid bounties for dead US soldiers. So if they say it didn’t happen, it didn’t happen.
Never mind then.
The NSA also says it has no information on this. That means, even if there is anything at all to it, it's HUMINT, unverified, and most likely a feed from an unfriendly person at the CIA
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/world/asia/afghan-russia-bounty-middleman.html
Rahmatullah Azizi stands as a central piece of a puzzle rocking Washington, named in American intelligence reports and confirmed by Afghan officials as a key middleman who for years handed out money from a Russian military intelligence unit to reward Taliban-linked fighters for targeting American troops in Afghanistan, according to American and Afghan officials.
As security agencies connected the dots of the bounty scheme and narrowed in on him, they carried out sweeping raids to arrest dozens of his relatives and associates about six months ago, but discovered that Mr. Azizi had sneaked out of Afghanistan and was likely back in Russia. What they did find in one of his homes, in Kabul, was about half a million dollars in cash.
American and Afghan officials for years have maintained that Russia was running clandestine operations to undermine the U.S. mission in Afghanistan and aid the Taliban.But they only recently concluded a Russian spy agency was paying bounties for killing coalition troops, including Americans, which the Kremlin and the Taliban have denied.
If true, it's shocking.
It's even more shocking that, if what we hear from the White House, it POTUS wasn't told about it.
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Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) said on Wednesday that after reading classified intelligence he believes the Trump administration should brief the Senate on reports that Russians offered bounties to Taliban-linked fighters to target U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
Toomey in a statement said he had read documents made available behind closed doors but that they had raised more questions for him.
“I have reviewed the classified information regarding bounties, upon which recent news reports are based. This information raises many questions and administration officials should come before the Senate and provide a classified briefing and answer questions from all members,” Toomey said.
“If it is concluded that Russia offered bounties to murder American soldiers, a firm American response is required in short order,” he added.
The administration has made intelligence reports available for senators in the sensitive compartmented information facility.
The Senate Intelligence Committee also met on Wednesday with Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe as part of a pre-scheduled meeting. And the administration is set to brief the Gang of Eight, which is made up of leadership and top members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, on Thursday.
But the administration has not provided the all-Senate briefing Democrats have demanded. The Senate is set to leave town for roughly two weeks on Thursday.
The New York Times first reported Friday, followed by several other news outlets, that the intelligence community concluded months ago that a unit within the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, secretly offered payments to Taliban-linked militants for attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Afghanistan last year.
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