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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #17

    The government has, traditionally been "OK" with an inflation rate of 2-3%, iirc. However, that "OK" is predicated upon a concurrent rise in income.

    That has not happened. I recall seeing a statistic that, in actual income, the average family is bringing home about $6K a year less.

    Now, take that $500 a month decrease in real income, and combine it with a mortgage rate that has climbed from 3% to 7%, and a lot of folks are going to be very unhappy.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      The government has, traditionally been "OK" with an inflation rate of 2-3%, iirc. However, that "OK" is predicated upon a concurrent rise in income.

      That has not happened. I recall seeing a statistic that, in actual income, the average family is bringing home about $6K a year less.

      Now, take that $500 a month decrease in real income, and combine it with a mortgage rate that has climbed from 3% to 7%, and a lot of folks are going to be very unhappy.

      taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #18

      @George-K you always make me think!!!!

      Unfortunately I was unable to find data that includes today.

      Here is one graph that shows average income over the past 50 years

      alt text

      Could not get the picture to work, so a link to average hour salary

      Hourly salary adjusted for inflation since 1979

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #19

        Screenshot 2023-07-13 at 8.37.52 PM.png

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #20

          We need inflation to a degree. We'll never pay off the debt otherwise.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG George K

            The government has, traditionally been "OK" with an inflation rate of 2-3%, iirc. However, that "OK" is predicated upon a concurrent rise in income.

            That has not happened. I recall seeing a statistic that, in actual income, the average family is bringing home about $6K a year less.

            Now, take that $500 a month decrease in real income, and combine it with a mortgage rate that has climbed from 3% to 7%, and a lot of folks are going to be very unhappy.

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #21

            @George-K said in Inflation:

            The government has, traditionally been "OK" with an inflation rate of 2-3%, iirc. However, that "OK" is predicated upon a concurrent rise in income.

            That has not happened. I recall seeing a statistic that, in actual income, the average family is bringing home about $6K a year less.

            Now, take that $500 a month decrease in real income, and combine it with a mortgage rate that has climbed from 3% to 7%, and a lot of folks are going to be very unhappy.

            Bidenomics.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @George-K said in Inflation:

              The government has, traditionally been "OK" with an inflation rate of 2-3%, iirc. However, that "OK" is predicated upon a concurrent rise in income.

              That has not happened. I recall seeing a statistic that, in actual income, the average family is bringing home about $6K a year less.

              Now, take that $500 a month decrease in real income, and combine it with a mortgage rate that has climbed from 3% to 7%, and a lot of folks are going to be very unhappy.

              Bidenomics.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #22

              @Jolly said in Inflation:

              Bidenomics.

              Read the "community notes":

              "Community Notes has done more for journalism over the past month than every major outlet has over the past decade."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

              LuFins DadL taiwan_girlT 2 Replies Last reply
              • George KG George K

                @Jolly said in Inflation:

                Bidenomics.

                Read the "community notes":

                "Community Notes has done more for journalism over the past month than every major outlet has over the past decade."

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #23

                @George-K he got nailed yesterday, too.

                The Brad

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                • George KG George K

                  @Jolly said in Inflation:

                  Bidenomics.

                  Read the "community notes":

                  "Community Notes has done more for journalism over the past month than every major outlet has over the past decade."

                  taiwan_girlT Offline
                  taiwan_girlT Offline
                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  @George-K said in Inflation:

                  @Jolly said in Inflation:

                  Bidenomics.

                  Read the "community notes":

                  "Community Notes has done more for journalism over the past month than every major outlet has over the past decade."

                  To his defense, when he said "before the pandemic" he was talking about 1933, which WAS before the pandemic. LOL

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @George-K said in Inflation:

                    @Jolly said in Inflation:

                    Bidenomics.

                    Read the "community notes":

                    "Community Notes has done more for journalism over the past month than every major outlet has over the past decade."

                    To his defense, when he said "before the pandemic" he was talking about 1933, which WAS before the pandemic. LOL

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #25

                    @taiwan_girl said in Inflation:

                    To his defense, when he said "before the pandemic" he was talking about 1933, which WAS before the pandemic.

                    He probably remembers it too!

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #26

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inflation-is-finally-falling-sharply-but-the-fed-shouldn-t-take-credit-experts-say/ar-AA1dXUuG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=adf110fb09a54e73abd83c2ce5ea90a7&ei=42

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @George-K he got nailed yesterday, too.

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                        @George-K he got nailed yesterday, too.

                        And today...

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #28

                          @George-K said in Inflation:

                          Link to video

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @George-K said in Inflation:

                            Link to video

                            HoraceH Online
                            HoraceH Online
                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #29

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Inflation:

                            @George-K said in Inflation:

                            Link to video

                            Loved that show so much.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #30

                              New season soon!

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #31

                                Goldman Sachs report says that the chance of recession is down to 15%.

                                https://thehill.com/business/4187314-soft-landing-summer-goldman-sachs-cuts-recession-odds-to-15-percent/

                                Should President Biden get credit for this? 555

                                (I think you all know my answer)

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                                  #32

                                  https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/inflation-prices-buying-habits/676191/

                                  If people are so mad about high prices, why do they keep buying so many expensive things?
                                  ...
                                  People hate inflation, just not enough to spend less: This is one of the central tensions of today’s economy, in which things are going great yet everyone is miserable. ...
                                  .
                                  ... And in surveys, people say that they are trading down because of cost pressures. But in fact they are spending more than they ever have, even after accounting for higher prices. ...

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #33

                                    Sorry, paywall, and I can’t afford their higher rates.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/inflation-prices-buying-habits/676191/

                                      If people are so mad about high prices, why do they keep buying so many expensive things?
                                      ...
                                      People hate inflation, just not enough to spend less: This is one of the central tensions of today’s economy, in which things are going great yet everyone is miserable. ...
                                      .
                                      ... And in surveys, people say that they are trading down because of cost pressures. But in fact they are spending more than they ever have, even after accounting for higher prices. ...

                                      George KG Offline
                                      George KG Offline
                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #34

                                      @Axtremus said in Inflation:

                                      https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/inflation-prices-buying-habits/676191/

                                      ... And in surveys, people say that they are trading down because of cost pressures. But in fact they are spending more than they ever have, even after accounting for higher prices. ...

                                      Everything is going along swimmingly.

                                      https://abcnews.go.com/Business/credit-card-debt-reached-record-high-means-economy/story?id=104717977

                                      Screenshot 2023-12-02 at 6.26.24 AM.png

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                      LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • George KG Offline
                                        George KG Offline
                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #35

                                        1-4.jpg

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Axtremus said in Inflation:

                                          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/inflation-prices-buying-habits/676191/

                                          ... And in surveys, people say that they are trading down because of cost pressures. But in fact they are spending more than they ever have, even after accounting for higher prices. ...

                                          Everything is going along swimmingly.

                                          https://abcnews.go.com/Business/credit-card-debt-reached-record-high-means-economy/story?id=104717977

                                          Screenshot 2023-12-02 at 6.26.24 AM.png

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #36

                                          @George-K said in Inflation:

                                          @Axtremus said in Inflation:

                                          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/inflation-prices-buying-habits/676191/

                                          ... And in surveys, people say that they are trading down because of cost pressures. But in fact they are spending more than they ever have, even after accounting for higher prices. ...

                                          Everything is going along swimmingly.

                                          https://abcnews.go.com/Business/credit-card-debt-reached-record-high-means-economy/story?id=104717977

                                          Screenshot 2023-12-02 at 6.26.24 AM.png

                                          And rates have gone from 17% to 23%.

                                          The Brad

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