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How does the 1619 project deal with this?

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    How inconvenient for labeling us a racist nation.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      North American slavery began under UK rule, the USA ended it.

      Actually North American slavery probably originated with the people of native origin, but they were clever enough to not record their history.

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        North American slavery began under UK rule, the USA ended it.

        Actually North American slavery probably originated with the people of native origin, but they were clever enough to not record their history.

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        @Copper said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

        Actually North American slavery probably originated with the people of native origin, but they were clever enough to not record their history.

        But maybe not. Generally speaking, slavery was a byproduct of agricultural societies, hunter-gatherer societies were much less hierarchical. But I don’t know if there were agricultural societies among Native American Indians as there were in central and northern South America.

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        • JonJ Jon

          @Copper said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

          Actually North American slavery probably originated with the people of native origin, but they were clever enough to not record their history.

          But maybe not. Generally speaking, slavery was a byproduct of agricultural societies, hunter-gatherer societies were much less hierarchical. But I don’t know if there were agricultural societies among Native American Indians as there were in central and northern South America.

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          @Jon said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

          @Copper said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

          Actually North American slavery probably originated with the people of native origin, but they were clever enough to not record their history.

          But maybe not. Generally speaking, slavery was a byproduct of agricultural societies, hunter-gatherer societies were much less hierarchical. But I don’t know if there were agricultural societies among Native American Indians as there were in central and northern South America.

          I’m pretty sure the Inca sacrifices weren’t volunteers…

          The Brad

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          • JonJ Jon

            @Copper said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

            Actually North American slavery probably originated with the people of native origin, but they were clever enough to not record their history.

            But maybe not. Generally speaking, slavery was a byproduct of agricultural societies, hunter-gatherer societies were much less hierarchical. But I don’t know if there were agricultural societies among Native American Indians as there were in central and northern South America.

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            @Jon

            But I don’t know if there were agricultural societies among Native American Indians as there were in central and northern South America.

            The tribes of the Iroquois Confederacy were a mix of hunter gatherers and horticulture agriculturists. They were not annual nomads like plains tribes and tended build villages that would remain in place for twenty year periods before abandonment and relocation elsewhere.

            As far as slavery in the European or African sense of the term, it was not practiced among North American tribes, although there might have been exceptions among tribes along the northwest coastal tribes of present day British Columbia and the Alaska panhandle. Not sure. Human chattels from war did exist but they were usually assimilated through adoption into families after a relatively brief period of time. As pointed out, the British and, to a much lesser extent, the French introduced institutionalised slavery to North America. The real culprits in the slave trade however were the Spanish and Portuguese, particularly in the Caribbean and throughout what we now refer to as Latin America.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Jon said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

              @Copper said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

              Actually North American slavery probably originated with the people of native origin, but they were clever enough to not record their history.

              But maybe not. Generally speaking, slavery was a byproduct of agricultural societies, hunter-gatherer societies were much less hierarchical. But I don’t know if there were agricultural societies among Native American Indians as there were in central and northern South America.

              I’m pretty sure the Inca sacrifices weren’t volunteers…

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              @LuFins-Dad said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

              @Jon said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

              @Copper said in How does the 1619 project deal with this?:

              Actually North American slavery probably originated with the people of native origin, but they were clever enough to not record their history.

              But maybe not. Generally speaking, slavery was a byproduct of agricultural societies, hunter-gatherer societies were much less hierarchical. But I don’t know if there were agricultural societies among Native American Indians as there were in central and northern South America.

              I’m pretty sure the Inca sacrifices weren’t volunteers…

              South America.

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                The Wiki...

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States

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                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  But as to the original question, the fact that the slavery issue was stricken from future drafts is all the evidence of our inherent evil.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    But as to the original question, the fact that the slavery issue was stricken from future drafts is all the evidence of our inherent evil.

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                    Renauda
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                    @LuFins-Dad

                    Since the Wiki card has already been played once in this thread, I think you need to look at the abolition movement in Britain and how that coincided with the drive to independence from the Crown. It would have influenced the thinking that gave rise to Jefferson’s draft cited above:

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism_in_the_United_Kingdom

                    There is no inherent evil on the part of anyone.

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                      @LuFins-Dad

                      Since the Wiki card has already been played once in this thread, I think you need to look at the abolition movement in Britain and how that coincided with the drive to independence from the Crown. It would have influenced the thinking that gave rise to Jefferson’s draft cited above:

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism_in_the_United_Kingdom

                      There is no inherent evil on the part of anyone.

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