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    Jolly
    wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 20:20 last edited by
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    Meanwhile, in the background...

    https://thefederalist.com/2023/07/05/if-alleged-doj-misconduct-is-true-a-district-judge-could-dismiss-the-whole-case-against-trump/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Mik
      wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 20:44 last edited by
      #2

      If true a VBD.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
        wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 20:52 last edited by
        #3

        Just for shucks and grins, let's say it's true and the judge chunks the DOJ's espionage case against Trump.

        What's the political outcome?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Jon
          wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 21:18 last edited by
          #4

          One part cope, two parts wishcasting.

          Why don’t you just find a non-felon to support?

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            George K
            wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 21:22 last edited by George K 7 May 2023, 21:23
            #5

            Who's the felon being supported? Son of POTATUS?

            Oh, the guy who hasn't been tried yet, LOL.

            Anyhow, moving on. Scharf has posted some questionable things about what documents are "classified" and what the president's rights are regarding that.

            I would take this article with a grain of salt, considering the source, but the fact that there have been complaints filed with the judge make me think that there might be some there there.

            Senator Ted Stevens would not be surprised It's not like there has ever been prosecutorial misconduct to advance a political position by the fed, is it?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Copper
              wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 21:23 last edited by
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              Apparently the guys prosecuting the non-felon might be the felons.

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              • J Jon
                5 Jul 2023, 21:18

                One part cope, two parts wishcasting.

                Why don’t you just find a non-felon to support?

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                Jolly
                wrote on 5 Jul 2023, 22:48 last edited by
                #7

                @Jon said in A big deal?:

                One part cope, two parts wishcasting.

                Why don’t you just find a non-felon to support?

                Hey, Hunter's plea deal hasn't been accepted by the judge yet!

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jon
                  wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 09:55 last edited by
                  #8

                  You guys have spent so much time elevating Hunter to importance you now think he’s a proper candidate for whattabouting the topic away from Trump.

                  He’s a loser crack addict with a famous dad. He ain’t nobody’s presidential candidate.

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                  • J Jon
                    6 Jul 2023, 09:55

                    You guys have spent so much time elevating Hunter to importance you now think he’s a proper candidate for whattabouting the topic away from Trump.

                    He’s a loser crack addict with a famous dad. He ain’t nobody’s presidential candidate.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 11:02 last edited by
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                    @Jon said in A big deal?:

                    He’s a loser crack addict with a famous dad. He ain’t nobody’s presidential candidate.

                    Yes.

                    Who is thought to have sold the influence of his father to foreign interests. Following the money isn't about Hunter. It's about the Senile Man.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      6 Jul 2023, 11:02

                      @Jon said in A big deal?:

                      He’s a loser crack addict with a famous dad. He ain’t nobody’s presidential candidate.

                      Yes.

                      Who is thought to have sold the influence of his father to foreign interests. Following the money isn't about Hunter. It's about the Senile Man.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 12:09 last edited by
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                      @George-K said in A big deal?:

                      @Jon said in A big deal?:

                      He’s a loser crack addict with a famous dad. He ain’t nobody’s presidential candidate.

                      Yes.

                      Who is thought to have sold the influence of his father to foreign interests. Following the money isn't about Hunter. It's about the Senile Man Big Guy.

                      FIFY...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • G George K
                        6 Jul 2023, 11:02

                        @Jon said in A big deal?:

                        He’s a loser crack addict with a famous dad. He ain’t nobody’s presidential candidate.

                        Yes.

                        Who is thought to have sold the influence of his father to foreign interests. Following the money isn't about Hunter. It's about the Senile Man.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 14:35 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in A big deal?:

                        Who is thought to have sold the influence of his father to foreign interests

                        Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                        Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                        But, to the original idea of this thread.

                        President Bidens son is a loser who, if he were anybody else, would probably be living on a street corner, or more likely, dead of a drug overdose. Did he make money only because of who is father is? Absolutely.

                        If President Biden acted on this and made decisions just because of his son, then he should be charged as needed. If President Biden did nothing, then I feel sorry for him having such a loser son.

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                        • T taiwan_girl
                          6 Jul 2023, 14:35

                          @George-K said in A big deal?:

                          Who is thought to have sold the influence of his father to foreign interests

                          Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                          Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                          But, to the original idea of this thread.

                          President Bidens son is a loser who, if he were anybody else, would probably be living on a street corner, or more likely, dead of a drug overdose. Did he make money only because of who is father is? Absolutely.

                          If President Biden acted on this and made decisions just because of his son, then he should be charged as needed. If President Biden did nothing, then I feel sorry for him having such a loser son.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 14:49 last edited by
                          #12

                          @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                          Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                          Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                          Good, and often-repeated, points.

                          Why didn't the Democrats investigate? They had years to do so.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            6 Jul 2023, 14:49

                            @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                            Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                            Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                            Good, and often-repeated, points.

                            Why didn't the Democrats investigate? They had years to do so.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 15:02 last edited by
                            #13

                            @George-K said in A big deal?:

                            @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                            Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                            Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                            Good, and often-repeated, points.

                            Why didn't the Democrats investigate? They had years to do so.

                            I may not agree with it, but is there something to investigate or is it really a crime to use connections to further yourself? The Saudi could say that they saw a good business opportunity and decided to take a risk. They may however say that with a "wink" in their eye. LOL

                            Connections and using those connections happen all the time. Son of Actor X gets a role in a movie. Surprise!!! Son in law of President gets big investment into his new fund. Surprise!! Son of President gets a seat on the board of a foreign company. Surprise!!! Daughter of big donor to a college gets accepted to that same college. Surprise!!

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                              George K
                              wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 15:05 last edited by
                              #14

                              The question is whether foreign funds were used to shape US policy.

                              As far as Biden goes, he bragged about getting the prosecutor investigating his son fired. He threatened to withhold a US loan. Son of a bitch!

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                6 Jul 2023, 15:05

                                The question is whether foreign funds were used to shape US policy.

                                As far as Biden goes, he bragged about getting the prosecutor investigating his son fired. He threatened to withhold a US loan. Son of a bitch!

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 15:27 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in A big deal?:

                                The question is whether foreign funds were used to shape US policy.

                                Pretty sure foreign funds are being used to shape US policy every day, just not necessarily by US nationals.
                                E.g., Russia 'meddled in all big social media' around US election: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46590890

                                As far as Biden goes, he bragged about getting the prosecutor investigating his son fired. He threatened to withhold a US loan.

                                Really? Where did you get those from?

                                [whataboutism] Threatening to withhold US loan? Even if that happened, betcha it’s not as egregious as https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower/white-house-acknowledges-strings-attached-in-trump-withholding-ukraine-aid-idUSKBN1WW1BG [/whataboutism]

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                  6 Jul 2023, 15:27

                                  @George-K said in A big deal?:

                                  The question is whether foreign funds were used to shape US policy.

                                  Pretty sure foreign funds are being used to shape US policy every day, just not necessarily by US nationals.
                                  E.g., Russia 'meddled in all big social media' around US election: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46590890

                                  As far as Biden goes, he bragged about getting the prosecutor investigating his son fired. He threatened to withhold a US loan.

                                  Really? Where did you get those from?

                                  [whataboutism] Threatening to withhold US loan? Even if that happened, betcha it’s not as egregious as https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower/white-house-acknowledges-strings-attached-in-trump-withholding-ukraine-aid-idUSKBN1WW1BG [/whataboutism]

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 15:32 last edited by
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                                  @Axtremus said in A big deal?:

                                  Really? Where did you get those from?

                                  https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/biden-reportedly-bragged-about-the-firing-of-a-prosecutor-who-was-investigating-his-sons-firm/

                                  https://thehill.com/policy/international/552022-former-ukrainian-prosecutor-says-he-was-fired-for-not-investigating/

                                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/09/25/heres-what-happened-with-the-bidens-and-ukraine/?sh=57f483f03938

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    6 Jul 2023, 15:32

                                    @Axtremus said in A big deal?:

                                    Really? Where did you get those from?

                                    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/biden-reportedly-bragged-about-the-firing-of-a-prosecutor-who-was-investigating-his-sons-firm/

                                    https://thehill.com/policy/international/552022-former-ukrainian-prosecutor-says-he-was-fired-for-not-investigating/

                                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/09/25/heres-what-happened-with-the-bidens-and-ukraine/?sh=57f483f03938

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 15:33 last edited by George K 7 Jun 2023, 15:33
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                                    @George-K said in A big deal?:

                                    @Axtremus said in A big deal?:

                                    Really? Where did you get those from?

                                    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/biden-reportedly-bragged-about-the-firing-of-a-prosecutor-who-was-investigating-his-sons-firm/

                                    https://thehill.com/policy/international/552022-former-ukrainian-prosecutor-says-he-was-fired-for-not-investigating/

                                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/09/25/heres-what-happened-with-the-bidens-and-ukraine/?sh=57f483f03938

                                    [whataboutism] Threatening to withhold US loan? Even if that happened, betcha it’s not as egregious as https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower/white-house-acknowledges-strings-attached-in-trump-withholding-ukraine-aid-idUSKBN1WW1BG [/whataboutism]

                                    He was impeached for that wasn't he? How'd that work out?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • T taiwan_girl
                                      6 Jul 2023, 15:02

                                      @George-K said in A big deal?:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                                      Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                                      Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                                      Good, and often-repeated, points.

                                      Why didn't the Democrats investigate? They had years to do so.

                                      I may not agree with it, but is there something to investigate or is it really a crime to use connections to further yourself? The Saudi could say that they saw a good business opportunity and decided to take a risk. They may however say that with a "wink" in their eye. LOL

                                      Connections and using those connections happen all the time. Son of Actor X gets a role in a movie. Surprise!!! Son in law of President gets big investment into his new fund. Surprise!! Son of President gets a seat on the board of a foreign company. Surprise!!! Daughter of big donor to a college gets accepted to that same college. Surprise!!

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 15:41 last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                                      @George-K said in A big deal?:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                                      Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                                      Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                                      Good, and often-repeated, points.

                                      Why didn't the Democrats investigate? They had years to do so.

                                      I may not agree with it, but is there something to investigate or is it really a crime to use connections to further yourself? The Saudi could say that they saw a good business opportunity and decided to take a risk. They may however say that with a "wink" in their eye. LOL

                                      Connections and using those connections happen all the time. Son of Actor X gets a role in a movie. Surprise!!! Son in law of President gets big investment into his new fund. Surprise!! Son of President gets a seat on the board of a foreign company. Surprise!!! Daughter of big donor to a college gets accepted to that same college. Surprise!!

                                      George brought up a very salient point. With all the Dem fury to nail anything Trump to a wall, why wasn't Jared investigated? Could it possibly be there was actual business being transacted?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        6 Jul 2023, 15:41

                                        @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                                        @George-K said in A big deal?:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                                        Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                                        Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                                        Good, and often-repeated, points.

                                        Why didn't the Democrats investigate? They had years to do so.

                                        I may not agree with it, but is there something to investigate or is it really a crime to use connections to further yourself? The Saudi could say that they saw a good business opportunity and decided to take a risk. They may however say that with a "wink" in their eye. LOL

                                        Connections and using those connections happen all the time. Son of Actor X gets a role in a movie. Surprise!!! Son in law of President gets big investment into his new fund. Surprise!! Son of President gets a seat on the board of a foreign company. Surprise!!! Daughter of big donor to a college gets accepted to that same college. Surprise!!

                                        George brought up a very salient point. With all the Dem fury to nail anything Trump to a wall, why wasn't Jared investigated? Could it possibly be there was actual business being transacted?

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 16:22 last edited by taiwan_girl 7 Jun 2023, 16:22
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                                        @Jolly said in A big deal?:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                                        @George-K said in A big deal?:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in A big deal?:

                                        Maybe not quite the same, but Jared Kushner was able to get the Saudi Arabia to put USD$2B into his private equity fund, something he had never really been involved with.

                                        Why would the Saudi decide to invest so much money in such an unknown fund? Could it be that he is the son in law of President Trump?

                                        Good, and often-repeated, points.

                                        Why didn't the Democrats investigate? They had years to do so.

                                        I may not agree with it, but is there something to investigate or is it really a crime to use connections to further yourself? The Saudi could say that they saw a good business opportunity and decided to take a risk. They may however say that with a "wink" in their eye. LOL

                                        Connections and using those connections happen all the time. Son of Actor X gets a role in a movie. Surprise!!! Son in law of President gets big investment into his new fund. Surprise!! Son of President gets a seat on the board of a foreign company. Surprise!!! Daughter of big donor to a college gets accepted to that same college. Surprise!!

                                        George brought up a very salient point. With all the Dem fury to nail anything Trump to a wall, why wasn't Jared investigated? Could it possibly be there was actual business being transacted?

                                        I agree. That is why I said that there probably wasn't even a crime committed. Same that I am not sure if a crime was committed when President Biden's son was appointed to the board of that company.

                                        While it could be argued that Jared Kushner case was more realistically true, I think that we both know that neither situation would have happened if those two guys (Jared and Hunter) were not related to a President of the US.

                                        If you or I went to the Saudi and said, "Hey, my background is in real estate, but I am starting up this private equity fund, which I really dont have any background in. Would you be interested in putting USD$2B into the fund?" What do you think the response would be?

                                        Same with Hunter Biden. If you or I went to a Ukraine gas firm and said, "Hey, I dont have any background in this, but I think it would be a good idea if I were on your board of directors." I would get laughed at, assuming I even got an appointment.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 6 Jul 2023, 17:47 last edited by
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                                          The bag was found in the library.

                                          If so, that's in the East Wing, where the family lives.

                                          As I said, rehab until after the election...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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