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So how do the Supreme Court Decisions Play in 2024?

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    We’ve already seen how last year’s abortion ruling affected the mid-terms, and there should be some carryover to 2024, though some of the fervor will have died down… Will this week’s decisions play a significant part in 2024?

    Blacks had started swinging a little to the right over the last few years. Will the Affirmative Action ruling push them back in the other direction?

    Will the student loan decision push students and young voters to be more motivated at the polls?

    Will the cumulative results drive more democrats to the polls just to get more liberal judges appointed or even to pack the courts?

    How do you think this plays in 2024?

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      We’ve already seen how last year’s abortion ruling affected the mid-terms, and there should be some carryover to 2024, though some of the fervor will have died down… Will this week’s decisions play a significant part in 2024?

      Blacks had started swinging a little to the right over the last few years. Will the Affirmative Action ruling push them back in the other direction?

      Will the student loan decision push students and young voters to be more motivated at the polls?

      Will the cumulative results drive more democrats to the polls just to get more liberal judges appointed or even to pack the courts?

      How do you think this plays in 2024?

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      @LuFins-Dad said in So how do the Supreme Court Decisions Play in 2024?:

      Blacks had started swinging a little to the right over the last few years. Will the Affirmative Action ruling push them back in the other direction?

      Affirmative Action is only for the incompetent.

      The competent, of any race, don't like it.

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        The student loan stuff was always a political ploy. It will continue. Abortion has some carry-over.

        I still think it's the economy.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          I think young folks can't afford to buy a house plays really huge. It's almost to the point they can't afford to rent.

          Abortion will still be in play, but around most of the country it is still available under pretty reasonable conditions.

          Affirmative action? I don't think that will sway any right leaning minorities back leftward. The decision really did not stop affirmative action, just made race not the deciding factor. It still could be done quietly so I think that's not a big deal.

          I doubt most Americans really care that someone doesn't want to participate in same sex weddings.

          So all in all? I think if SCOTUS comes into play it's easy enough to look at the record of where the conservative majority disagreed with each other and voted with the more liberal side. I hope the right is smart enough to present the facts.

          Truthful details should be greater than bullshit rhetoric. Will they be? I don't know.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            I will say this...After reading some of these recent dissents, vote early, vote often and vote Republican.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Mik

              I think young folks can't afford to buy a house plays really huge. It's almost to the point they can't afford to rent.

              Abortion will still be in play, but around most of the country it is still available under pretty reasonable conditions.

              Affirmative action? I don't think that will sway any right leaning minorities back leftward. The decision really did not stop affirmative action, just made race not the deciding factor. It still could be done quietly so I think that's not a big deal.

              I doubt most Americans really care that someone doesn't want to participate in same sex weddings.

              So all in all? I think if SCOTUS comes into play it's easy enough to look at the record of where the conservative majority disagreed with each other and voted with the more liberal side. I hope the right is smart enough to present the facts.

              Truthful details should be greater than bullshit rhetoric. Will they be? I don't know.

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              @Mik said in So how do the Supreme Court Decisions Play in 2024?:

              I think young folks can't afford to buy a house plays really huge. It's almost to the point they can't afford to rent.

              Abortion will still be in play, but around most of the country it is still available under pretty reasonable conditions.

              Affirmative action? I don't think that will sway any right leaning minorities back leftward. The decision really did not stop affirmative action, just made race not the deciding factor. It still could be done quietly so I think that's not a big deal.

              I doubt most Americans really care that someone doesn't want to participate in same sex weddings.

              So all in all? I think if SCOTUS comes into play it's easy enough to look at the record of where the conservative majority disagreed with each other and voted with the more liberal side. I hope the right is smart enough to present the facts.

              Truthful details should be greater than bullshit rhetoric. Will they be? I don't know.

              I think millennials are becoming more conservative. I just wish “conservatives” were as well.

              The Brad

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                I think the Dobbs ruling will behave in the opposite way - more relevant in 24 and increasingly more relevant over time.

                2024 because GOP candidates will more or less be forced to take a public stance on a national abortion law in the primary. And over time because legal restrictions are still being passed, so the salience will increase from 2022 when it was only about what might happen.

                As for the culture-war tinged rulings, I think it could provide talking points and perhaps motivate turnout among special groups (eg students with loans) but I’m not sure it’ll have the impact of Dobbs.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  I will say this...After reading some of these recent dissents, vote early, vote often and vote Republican.

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                  @Jolly said in So how do the Supreme Court Decisions Play in 2024?:

                  I will say this...After reading some of these recent dissents, vote early, vote often and vote Republican.

                  I noted that none of the dissents I read even mentioned the Constitution.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    I will say this...After reading some of these recent dissents, vote early, vote often and vote Republican.

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                    @Jolly said in So how do the Supreme Court Decisions Play in 2024?:

                    I will say this...After reading some of these recent dissents, vote early, vote often and vote Republican.

                    I noted that none of the dissents I read even mentioned the Constitution.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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