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Maybe $23 to drive in to get your non-wood cooked pizza.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #5

    You are a dumb bastard, aren't you?

    The pizza comment dovetails nicely with the overall flavor of the story...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @Mik said in Maybe $23 to drive in to get your non-wood cooked pizza.:

      I am sure pizzerias are a major cause of global warming.

      The article says NYC calls the $23 a “congestion charge,” meaning it’s imposed as a traffic congestion control measure, not a climate change mitigation measure.

      It’s just lousy reporting on Breitbart’s part to stick the pizza tweet in the middle of an article titled to talk about a traffic congestion charge.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      @Axtremus here's another article that talks about it.

      Nothing about a congestion charge...

      https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/proposed-pizzeria-rules-could-slice-brick-oven-carbon-emissions-by-75/

      Lousy reporting on CBS news' part to omit the congestion charge context.

      New rules proposed by the city Department of Environmental Protection are aimed at reducing carbon emissions at pizzerias and other buildings. The owners of wood- and coal-fired ovens may face major financial decisions.

      At Capizzi Pizzeria in Hell's Kitchen, the brick oven brings a kiss of crisp. Owner Joe Calcagno built it himself in 2008.

      "It's actually the focal point of our business," Calcagno said.

      Calcagno learned the trade from his dad and now shares the secrets with his children. He is concerned he may have to make a change under the city's new proposed rules.

      "I'm in business 40 years in the restaurant business," he said, "and now at the end of my career, I have debt that I have accumulated since COVID. And the city just comes up with another crazy idea every time."

      The DEP wants restaurants like Capizzi to potentially slice carbon emissions by 75%, saying in a statement, "All New Yorkers deserve to breathe healthy air and wood- and coal-fired stoves are among the largest contributors of harmful pollutants in neighborhoods with poor air quality. This common-sense rule, developed with restaurant and environmental justice groups, requires a professional review of whether installing emission controls is feasible."

      For some, that could mean machinery costing tens of thousands of dollars.

      "I'll do it," Calcagno said. "Pay for it. Why won't the city put their money where their mouth is? You know how many pizzas I have to sell to pay for that $20,000 oven?"

      The rules would also apply to some residential buildings, which have started to comply by converting their boilers to capture carbon dioxide.

      The DEP claims it did consider the cost of emission control devices when drafting these rules and acknowledges the challenges of restaurants to find space for these new accommodations, but made no mention of reimbursing restauranteurs for the architectural evaluation or installation.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          What, she doesn’t like pizza?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            She's never given a piece up....

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
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              #10

              Might mellow her out a bit.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #11

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #12

                  They’ll be coming for charcoal bbq next.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #13

                    Didn’t the state just ban gas stoves, too? Are they trying to make electric a monopoly in the city?

                    Somebody should take a look at Con Edison’s political donations over the past few years…

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #14

                      "All New Yorkers deserve to breathe healthy air and wood- and coal-fired stoves are among the largest contributors of harmful pollutants in neighborhoods with poor air quality..

                      I would love to see those studies. I would also love to see who is bitching about wood fired grill aromas.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Didn’t the state just ban gas stoves, too? Are they trying to make electric a monopoly in the city?

                        Somebody should take a look at Con Edison’s political donations over the past few years…

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #15

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Maybe $23 to drive in to get your non-wood cooked pizza.:

                        Somebody should take a look at Con Edison’s political donations over the past few years…

                        Illinois says, "Hold my beer."

                        Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan has attained two distinctions since becoming a legislative leader during Ronald Reagan's first term and before personal computers were a thing.

                        First, the Southwest Side Democrat has become the longest-serving legislative House speaker in American history. Second, he's managed to avoid criminal charges in a state so infamous for its array of political rapscallions that the word "corruption" might be chiseled into the official state credo.

                        But now Madigan faces an unprecedented and dangerous, new legal threat. On Friday, federal prosecutors sent new grand jury subpoenas to Madigan's offices and made a separate court filing in which utility giant Commonwealth Edison admitted to engaging in bribery to burnish its image with Madigan as it looked to advance a high-stakes Springfield agenda.

                        The centerpiece of ComEd's corrupt lobbying practices is the manner in which it lavished contracts and subcontracts on Madigan's supporters, dating all the way back to 2011 and lasting through 2019. The feds say that Madigan allies benefiting from ComEd's largesse typically did little to no work for the power company.

                        That corporate generosity came at the same time the state-regulated utility scored big legislative wins in Springfield that required the speaker's blessing, including legislation that benefited ComEd to the tune of more than $150 million, according to the agreement.

                        In 2016 alone, the Madigan-led House allowed ComEd's corporate parent, Exelon, to hit ComEd ratepayers with as much as a $2.3 billion, 10-year rate increase to subsidize two of Exelon's financially flagging nuclear plants.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          You’d have to burn a pizza stove 849 years to equal one year of John Kerry’s private jet

                          https://nypost.com/2023/06/26/green-madness-youd-have-to-burn-a-pizza-stove-849-years-to-equal-one-year-of-john-kerrys-private-jet/amp/

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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