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    Jolly
    wrote on 27 May 2023, 12:33 last edited by
    #13

    Does this mean you're not getting the app?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J Jolly
      27 May 2023, 12:33

      Does this mean you're not getting the app?

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 27 May 2023, 12:36 last edited by Aqua Letifer
      #14

      @Jolly said in Public Sq.:

      Does this mean you're not getting the app?

      Bro I already downloaded, why do you think I could complain so much already? 😄

      I can see it helping figure out who's who in the zoo, politically speaking. I agree with LD but we're waaaaay past that, Jerry. Very hard to find apolitical businesses, big or small.

      Please love yourself.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 27 May 2023, 12:57 last edited by
        #15

        Are the businesses on the app apolitical or “the right type of political”?

        The Brad

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          26 May 2023, 21:33

          You don’t get businesses out of politics by shopping at businesses involved with politics.

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          Jon
          wrote on 27 May 2023, 13:05 last edited by
          #16

          @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

          You don’t get businesses out of politics by shopping at businesses involved with politics.

          This. Business should be a DMZ. I don’t want to live in a world with red and blue companies.

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          • J Jon
            27 May 2023, 13:05

            @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

            You don’t get businesses out of politics by shopping at businesses involved with politics.

            This. Business should be a DMZ. I don’t want to live in a world with red and blue companies.

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            George K
            wrote on 27 May 2023, 13:07 last edited by
            #17

            @Jon said in Public Sq.:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

            You don’t get businesses out of politics by shopping at businesses involved with politics.

            This. Business should be a DMZ. I don’t want to live in a world with red and blue companies.

            "Shut up and sell."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • J Jon
              27 May 2023, 13:05

              @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

              You don’t get businesses out of politics by shopping at businesses involved with politics.

              This. Business should be a DMZ. I don’t want to live in a world with red and blue companies.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 27 May 2023, 13:18 last edited by
              #18

              @Jon said in Public Sq.:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

              You don’t get businesses out of politics by shopping at businesses involved with politics.

              This. Business should be a DMZ. I don’t want to live in a world with red and blue companies.

              You already do, to some extent. REI/Cabela's. Walmart/Target. Chik-Fil-A/McDonald's. And look at the Matt Walsh stuff. Everybody's virtue signaling.

              Although I agree, and I think customers are more to blame than businesses.

              Please love yourself.

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                George K
                wrote on 27 May 2023, 13:35 last edited by
                #19

                Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  27 May 2023, 13:35

                  Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                  There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 27 May 2023, 13:43 last edited by
                  #20

                  @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                  Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                  There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                  When it comes to discussing whether red and blue companies exist, what's the difference? Customers have more say about this than businesses do. The red/blue isn't their doing, it's ours.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 27 May 2023, 14:45 last edited by
                    #21

                    All points of view are not equal.

                    Good and bad exist and they are different.

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                    • G George K
                      27 May 2023, 13:35

                      Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                      There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 27 May 2023, 15:07 last edited by
                      #22

                      @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                      Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                      There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                      There IS a difference between promoting and supporting… And in general, Chik-Fil-A does more supporting, but the playing Christian Contemporary Music in the stores does cross the line.

                      The Brad

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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        27 May 2023, 15:07

                        @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                        Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                        There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                        There IS a difference between promoting and supporting… And in general, Chik-Fil-A does more supporting, but the playing Christian Contemporary Music in the stores does cross the line.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 27 May 2023, 15:13 last edited by
                        #23

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

                        @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                        Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                        There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                        There IS a difference between promoting and supporting…

                        Tell that to the scads of liberals who refuse to go there and judge everyone who does. I appreciate that you see the difference as significant, but that has no influence over what customers consider a red vs blue business.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          27 May 2023, 15:07

                          @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                          Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                          There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                          There IS a difference between promoting and supporting… And in general, Chik-Fil-A does more supporting, but the playing Christian Contemporary Music in the stores does cross the line.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 27 May 2023, 15:19 last edited by George K
                          #24

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

                          playing Christian Contemporary Music in the stores does cross the line.

                          I was not aware of that. You're right.

                          Googling around, I see that supposedly, Hobby Lobby does the same thing.

                          Having only done DoorDash for CFA, I was ignorant of that.

                          EDIT: Apparently not all Chik-Fil-A's do that, and there are no lyrics. I found a playlist, and it sounds like bland elevator music to me.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            27 May 2023, 15:07

                            @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                            Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                            There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                            There IS a difference between promoting and supporting… And in general, Chik-Fil-A does more supporting, but the playing Christian Contemporary Music in the stores does cross the line.

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                            Jon
                            wrote on 27 May 2023, 15:25 last edited by
                            #25

                            @LuFins-Dad I wasn’t aware of that and for good reason. The one I eat at (every time I go to Duke) is part of a hospital food court, so no music.

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                            • A Aqua Letifer
                              27 May 2023, 15:13

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

                              @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                              Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                              There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                              There IS a difference between promoting and supporting…

                              Tell that to the scads of liberals who refuse to go there and judge everyone who does. I appreciate that you see the difference as significant, but that has no influence over what customers consider a red vs blue business.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 27 May 2023, 16:10 last edited by
                              #26

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Public Sq.:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

                              @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                              Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                              There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                              There IS a difference between promoting and supporting…

                              Tell that to the scads of liberals who refuse to go there and judge everyone who does. I appreciate that you see the difference as significant, but that has no influence over what customers consider a red vs blue business.

                              Well...You're right.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • A Aqua Letifer
                                27 May 2023, 15:13

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

                                @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                                Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                                There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                                There IS a difference between promoting and supporting…

                                Tell that to the scads of liberals who refuse to go there and judge everyone who does. I appreciate that you see the difference as significant, but that has no influence over what customers consider a red vs blue business.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 27 May 2023, 16:24 last edited by LuFins Dad
                                #27

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Public Sq.:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Public Sq.:

                                @George-K said in Public Sq.:

                                Chik-Fil-A is different. Their marketing, sales etc really promote nothing other than...chicken. They support Christian causes, but you'd never know it by going into one of their restaurants.

                                There's a distinction to be made between "supporting" and "promoting."

                                There IS a difference between promoting and supporting…

                                Tell that to the scads of liberals who refuse to go there and judge everyone who does. I appreciate that you see the difference as significant, but that has no influence over what customers consider a red vs blue business.

                                Agreed, and I don’t think there’s ever going to be a perfect answer in a free market and free speech environment. There’s always going to be some catering to some sides on both sides. What’s happening now is completely different.

                                This is a challenge that I have to face every single frigging day at work. I manage the largest Yamaha/Bösendorfer piano showroom in Washington, DC and I aLao manage the Institutional Relations department for the company. We have faced criticism for providing pianos for the Trump inaugural events, and we have faced criticism for providing pianos for the Biden administration. We work daily with Churches of all faiths and denominations and treat them all with respect. We also rent pianos on a regular basis to the Washington Gay Men’s Choir. Our pianos have been rented for performances by the Gaithers and at theaters putting on drag shows. I have personally sold pianos to famous political figures that I have absolutely positively disagreed with and some to figures that I have absolutely agreed with and support. Both sides get equivalent service. That’s just the way it is. I don’t get to judge their worthiness as clients and students and it would be stupid of me to do so.

                                The Brad

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 27 May 2023, 16:26 last edited by
                                  #28

                                  So pogroms like Public Square attempt to put me in a very bad place. They are trying to force me into putting my business, my bosses, and my employees into a side. One or the other. Fuck that.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 27 May 2023, 16:32 last edited by
                                    #29

                                    Basically, they're doing what people slag the liberals off for doing, and saying it's ok because we love America and freedom and shit, just as long as your freedom isn't something we don't approve of.

                                    And playing contemporary Christian music crosses a number of lines.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                                      27 May 2023, 16:32

                                      Basically, they're doing what people slag the liberals off for doing, and saying it's ok because we love America and freedom and shit, just as long as your freedom isn't something we don't approve of.

                                      And playing contemporary Christian music crosses a number of lines.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 27 May 2023, 17:09 last edited by
                                      #30

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Public Sq.:

                                      Basically, they're doing what people slag the liberals off for doing, and saying it's ok because we love America and freedom and shit, just as long as your freedom isn't something we don't approve of.

                                      And playing contemporary Christian music crosses a number of lines.

                                      Don't like it, don't go there.

                                      With this last round of child recruitment for gender transition and pedophilia, the culture wars have heated up.

                                      I will not support companies who promote that shit.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        27 May 2023, 17:09

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Public Sq.:

                                        Basically, they're doing what people slag the liberals off for doing, and saying it's ok because we love America and freedom and shit, just as long as your freedom isn't something we don't approve of.

                                        And playing contemporary Christian music crosses a number of lines.

                                        Don't like it, don't go there.

                                        With this last round of child recruitment for gender transition and pedophilia, the culture wars have heated up.

                                        I will not support companies who promote that shit.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 27 May 2023, 17:11 last edited by
                                        #31

                                        @Jolly said in Public Sq.:

                                        With this last round of child recruitment for gender transition and pedophilia, the culture wars have heated up.

                                        That isn't politics, that is criminal.

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          27 May 2023, 17:09

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Public Sq.:

                                          Basically, they're doing what people slag the liberals off for doing, and saying it's ok because we love America and freedom and shit, just as long as your freedom isn't something we don't approve of.

                                          And playing contemporary Christian music crosses a number of lines.

                                          Don't like it, don't go there.

                                          With this last round of child recruitment for gender transition and pedophilia, the culture wars have heated up.

                                          I will not support companies who promote that shit.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 27 May 2023, 17:22 last edited by
                                          #32

                                          @Jolly said in Public Sq.:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Public Sq.:

                                          Basically, they're doing what people slag the liberals off for doing, and saying it's ok because we love America and freedom and shit, just as long as your freedom isn't something we don't approve of.

                                          And playing contemporary Christian music crosses a number of lines.

                                          Don't like it, don't go there.

                                          With this last round of child recruitment for gender transition and pedophilia, the culture wars have heated up.

                                          I will not support companies who promote that shit.

                                          I’m not disagreeing with you on that point. I have no problem with saying I’m done with a product or a store because of the ideological and political mission of that company. Target and Anheuser both stepped in it and I have zero sympathy for them and will gladly join in. I don’t really drink any AB branded beers, so that’s not really an issue and only occasionally went to Target. Easy enough to find an alternative.

                                          But I’m not going to go searching for a beer brewed by self expressed FREEDOM LOVING PATRIOTS, HOORAH! either.

                                          The Brad

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