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  • J jon-nyc
    20 May 2023, 17:23

    Yes we sure do.

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    George K
    wrote on 20 May 2023, 17:29 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Merit Based:

    Yes we sure do.

    Looking at immigration requirements for other countries, I am amazed at how restrictive they are.

    Australia, New Zealand, Canada ... I wouldn't have qualified.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      20 May 2023, 17:29

      @jon-nyc said in Merit Based:

      Yes we sure do.

      Looking at immigration requirements for other countries, I am amazed at how restrictive they are.

      Australia, New Zealand, Canada ... I wouldn't have qualified.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 20 May 2023, 18:33 last edited by
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      @George-K

      In what way would you not qualify for here? Medical professionals from the US have little or no difficulty practicing here. The same cannot be said for anyone else from abroad, although as of late there has been quite an influx of Afrikaner MDs.

      Elbows up!

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      • R Renauda
        20 May 2023, 18:33

        @George-K

        In what way would you not qualify for here? Medical professionals from the US have little or no difficulty practicing here. The same cannot be said for anyone else from abroad, although as of late there has been quite an influx of Afrikaner MDs.

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        George K
        wrote on 20 May 2023, 19:10 last edited by
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        @Renauda said in Merit Based:

        In what way would you not qualify for here?

        https://ircc.canada.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

        Screenshot 2023-05-20 at 2.08.18 PM.png

        https://www.visaplace.com/blog-immigration-law/express-entry/draws/

        Latest CRS Score Cut-Off is 691

        The latest CRS draw score is 691, which is a higher score than the last EE draw, mainly because it is a PNP draw. This is the cut-off CRS score for the most recent draw. Anyone with this score or higher would have received an invitation to apply for Express Entry.

        Did I do the calculation wrong?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          20 May 2023, 19:10

          @Renauda said in Merit Based:

          In what way would you not qualify for here?

          https://ircc.canada.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

          Screenshot 2023-05-20 at 2.08.18 PM.png

          https://www.visaplace.com/blog-immigration-law/express-entry/draws/

          Latest CRS Score Cut-Off is 691

          The latest CRS draw score is 691, which is a higher score than the last EE draw, mainly because it is a PNP draw. This is the cut-off CRS score for the most recent draw. Anyone with this score or higher would have received an invitation to apply for Express Entry.

          Did I do the calculation wrong?

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          Renauda
          wrote on 20 May 2023, 19:25 last edited by Renauda
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          @George-K

          At a glance, I think you left out a lot of details that would increase your points. You are fluent in English in all categories. You left out all your years of job experience in the US. As well in include all certificates and education.

          Same goes for Mrs. George.

          Imagine that both of you are 40 years of age and recalculate.

          Elbows up!

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          • G George K
            20 May 2023, 19:10

            @Renauda said in Merit Based:

            In what way would you not qualify for here?

            https://ircc.canada.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

            Screenshot 2023-05-20 at 2.08.18 PM.png

            https://www.visaplace.com/blog-immigration-law/express-entry/draws/

            Latest CRS Score Cut-Off is 691

            The latest CRS draw score is 691, which is a higher score than the last EE draw, mainly because it is a PNP draw. This is the cut-off CRS score for the most recent draw. Anyone with this score or higher would have received an invitation to apply for Express Entry.

            Did I do the calculation wrong?

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            George K
            wrote on 20 May 2023, 19:43 last edited by
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            @George-K said in Merit Based:

            https://ircc.canada.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

            I dropped my age to 39 and lied about a Job offer, foreign work experience (USA?) and a couple of other things.

            Boosted up to 729.

            Screenshot 2023-05-20 at 2.42.44 PM.png

            Just increasing my age to 45 drops my score by 50 points.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              xenon
              wrote on 20 May 2023, 19:45 last edited by
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              America does need an overhaul - I just went through as a skilled immigrant and it’s a crazy system.

              That said - I’ve seen the implementation in Canada and imo it’s much worse than the family system before it. Much worse.

              Don’t underestimate government’s ability to bungle this. And Canada typically has a better bureaucracy than the US.

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              • J jon-nyc
                20 May 2023, 17:23

                Yes we sure do.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 20 May 2023, 20:02 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Merit Based:

                Yes we sure do.

                +1

                I suspect the U.S. immigration system chronically underweights "skill based" immigration due to opposition from labor groups. After all, more skilled labors from abroad means more foreigners to "take the jobs away from Americans."

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 20 May 2023, 20:05 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                  I’ve been through both and found the Canadian system much easier to handle as well as being quicker. They were both bureaucratic but in Canada we knew where we were. Waiting for the Green card was just an interminable period apparently based on blind luck for when we’d get accepted. In both cases we used a lawyer to assist that we’d never have been able to afford without my company paying.

                  It’s amazing that the US doesn’t have a merit based system, presumably because it would be racist

                  I was only joking

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 20 May 2023, 20:20 last edited by
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                    Lemme get this straight. Your employers PAID for lawyers so you could come here and pretend to work?

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 20 May 2023, 20:28 last edited by
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                      Pretty common for employers to pay for lawyers to handle their skilled employees' immigration cases. It's viewed as a perk, a recruitment competitive edge, to attract skilled workers who happen to be foreigners.

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                      • G George K
                        20 May 2023, 19:43

                        @George-K said in Merit Based:

                        https://ircc.canada.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

                        I dropped my age to 39 and lied about a Job offer, foreign work experience (USA?) and a couple of other things.

                        Boosted up to 729.

                        Screenshot 2023-05-20 at 2.42.44 PM.png

                        Just increasing my age to 45 drops my score by 50 points.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 20 May 2023, 20:46 last edited by Renauda
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                        @George-K said in Merit Based:

                        @George-K said in Merit Based:

                        https://ircc.canada.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

                        I dropped my age to 39 and lied about a Job offer, foreign work experience (USA?) and a couple of other things.

                        Boosted up to 729.

                        Screenshot 2023-05-20 at 2.42.44 PM.png

                        Just increasing my age to 45 drops my score by 50 points.

                        Citing your foreign work experience as USA is not lying. Foreign work experience in your profession is all what you have. You have never worked as a physician in Canada.

                        Elbows up!

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