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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    It's voluntary. The senior politicians (and justices) can say no and resign at anytime.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      It's voluntary. The senior politicians (and justices) can say no and resign at anytime.

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      Horace
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      #8

      @Axtremus said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

      It's voluntary. The senior politicians (and justices) can say no and resign at anytime.

      Saying they can voluntarily resign, is disrespectful to their handlers. It's literally their job to remove risk of voluntary actions, on the part of those they handle.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        She definitely needs to go. And yes, there should be a age limit for politicians and judges, etc.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          It's voluntary. The senior politicians (and justices) can say no and resign at anytime.

          Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
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          #10

          @Axtremus said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

          It's voluntary. The senior politicians (and justices) can say no and resign at anytime.

          Not all elected turn into gomers with age. Why are we so particular about age when we elect the likes of Santos and MT Greene?

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @Axtremus said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

            It's voluntary. The senior politicians (and justices) can say no and resign at anytime.

            Not all elected turn into gomers with age. Why are we so particular about age when we elect the likes of Santos and MT Greene?

            George KG Offline
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            @Catseye3 said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

            Why are we so particular about age when we elect the likes of Santos and MT Greene?

            Because at some time, people become incompetent.

            https://www.msn.com/en-in/health/health-news/dianne-feinstein-s-staff-makes-sure-the-senator-never-walks-around-the-capitol-by-herself-out-of-concern-for-what-she-might-say-to-reporters-amid-her-declining-health-and-old-age-report-says/ar-AA1b9yqi

            MTG might be, in your opinion, dangerous. Santos is a thieving liar (though probably not dangerous). We really don't know what, if anything, the senior senator from California is thinking. Who's pulling the strings?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              @Axtremus said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

              It's voluntary. The senior politicians (and justices) can say no and resign at anytime.

              Not all elected turn into gomers with age. Why are we so particular about age when we elect the likes of Santos and MT Greene?

              Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
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              @Catseye3 said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

              Not all elected turn into gomers with age. Why are we so particular about age when we elect the likes of Santos and MT Greene?

              Not all people under 30 are incapable of managing their own meals, but we don't let them run, either.

              It makes sense that if there's a lower age limit that there should be an upper one, too.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Catseye3 said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                Not all elected turn into gomers with age. Why are we so particular about age when we elect the likes of Santos and MT Greene?

                Not all people under 30 are incapable of managing their own meals, but we don't let them run, either.

                It makes sense that if there's a lower age limit that there should be an upper one, too.

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                It makes sense that if there's a lower age limit that there should be an upper one, too.

                Agreed. The problem is that there's a great deal of individual variability as one gets older. However, this is not a matter of policy or legislation. You'd have to amend the constitution and that's a very heavy lift.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Catseye3 said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                  Not all elected turn into gomers with age. Why are we so particular about age when we elect the likes of Santos and MT Greene?

                  Not all people under 30 are incapable of managing their own meals, but we don't let them run, either.

                  It makes sense that if there's a lower age limit that there should be an upper one, too.

                  Catseye3C Offline
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                  Catseye3
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                  Not all people under 30 are incapable of managing their own meals, but we don't let them run, either.

                  I agree the less-than-compos-mentis should not be elected or re-elected. I just don't see the need for a law about it -- in keeping with my conviction that there doesn't need to be a bloody law about every damn thing.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #15

                    More on DiFi.

                    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/dianne-feinstein-health-crisis-senate-resign-1234734590/


                    Multiple sources tell Rolling Stone that in recent years Feinstein’s office had an on-call system — unbeknownst to Feinstein herself — to prevent the senator from ever walking around the Capitol on her own. At any given moment there was a staff member ready to jump up and stroll alongside the senator if she left her office, worried about what she’d say to reporters if left unsupervised. The system has been in place for years.

                    “They will not let her leave by herself, but she doesn’t even know it,” says Jamarcus Purley, a former staffer.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      More on DiFi.

                      https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/dianne-feinstein-health-crisis-senate-resign-1234734590/


                      Multiple sources tell Rolling Stone that in recent years Feinstein’s office had an on-call system — unbeknownst to Feinstein herself — to prevent the senator from ever walking around the Capitol on her own. At any given moment there was a staff member ready to jump up and stroll alongside the senator if she left her office, worried about what she’d say to reporters if left unsupervised. The system has been in place for years.

                      “They will not let her leave by herself, but she doesn’t even know it,” says Jamarcus Purley, a former staffer.

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                      Horace
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                      @George-K said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                      More on DiFi.

                      https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/dianne-feinstein-health-crisis-senate-resign-1234734590/

                      ———
                      Multiple sources tell Rolling Stone that in recent years Feinstein’s office had an on-call system — unbeknownst to Feinstein herself — to prevent the senator from ever walking around the Capitol on her own. At any given moment there was a staff member ready to jump up and stroll alongside the senator if she left her office, worried about what she’d say to reporters if left unsupervised. The system has been in place for years.

                      “They will not let her leave by herself, but she doesn’t even know it,” says Jamarcus Purley, a former staffer.

                      As I was saying about handlers and their effect on "voluntary actions".

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • RainmanR Offline
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                        @Catseye3 said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                        . . .there doesn't need to be a bloody law about every damn thing.

                        That's my Cats that said that!

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                          Her election history is a perfect illustration of the insanity that is California. In 1994 she barely beat out Log Cabin Republican Michael Huffington (hey, you’d probably go gay after being married to Ariana, too…) By 2008 she was doubling up the Republican, and in 2018 she was only competing against other liberal Democrats…

                          The Brad

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                            Not all people under 30 are incapable of managing their own meals, but we don't let them run, either.

                            I agree the less-than-compos-mentis should not be elected or re-elected. I just don't see the need for a law about it -- in keeping with my conviction that there doesn't need to be a bloody law about every damn thing.

                            Doctor PhibesD Online
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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #19

                            @Catseye3 said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                            I agree the less-than-compos-mentis should not be elected or re-elected. I just don't see the need for a law about it -- in keeping with my conviction that there doesn't need to be a bloody law about every damn thing.

                            If you don't have rules, then you're left to rely on the common sense of the general public. The Californian general public in the case of Feinstein, or in the interests of balance, Iowa (who has the 2nd oldest Senator, who I believe is named Noah)

                            Far be it from me to cast nasturtiums at these fine states, but let's be honest we all know where I'm going here.

                            I was only joking

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              "Feinstein returns to the Senate."

                              Bushwa....

                              She was never gone. Just ask her.


                              Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California insisted that she had not been absent from the Senate when asked about it by reporters on Tuesday, according to Slate and the Los Angeles Times.

                              "No, I haven't been gone," she told the Times' Ben Oreskes on Tuesday when asked how her Senate colleagues have responded to her return. "You should follow the — I haven't been gone, I've been working."

                              Oreskes then asked her whether she had been working from home.

                              "No, I've been here. I've been voting," she said. "Please, you either know or don't know."

                              Feinstein then reportedly deflected a question about lawmakers calling for her to resign before an aide wheeled her away.

                              Feinstein's office did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                Based on how much people hate giving it up, being in power must either be seriously addictive or extremely lucrative, or possibly both.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  Based on how much people hate giving it up, being in power must either be seriously addictive or extremely lucrative, or possibly both.

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                                  extremely lucrative

                                  "At some point, you've made enough money."

                                  obama-house-10-817844008.jpeg

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                                    extremely lucrative

                                    "At some point, you've made enough money."

                                    obama-house-10-817844008.jpeg

                                    Doctor PhibesD Online
                                    Doctor PhibesD Online
                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    @George-K said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                                    extremely lucrative

                                    "At some point, you've made enough money."

                                    obama-house-10-817844008.jpeg

                                    Yeah, but he made his money by being an ex-President and world-renowned author.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Might have to have an amendment, but I have no problem with reasonable term limits. 24 years total, for both House and Senate. That's a 12-term congressman, a 4-term Senator or a combination, such as 3 terms in Congress and 3 terms in the Senate.

                                      I also have a very big problem with getting rich while serving. If a person is elected to Congress, ALL investments go into a blind trust for the duration of their service. All of their spouse's investments go into a blind trust. ANY communication between the elected official and the trust, besides normal quarterly statements and tax documents will result in immediate malfeasance charges and if proven guilty, immediate impeachment.

                                      And...All elected officials and any civil servant above the grade of GS-14, shall be barred from any lobbying job for a period of 12 years past their last date of service.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Might have to have an amendment, but I have no problem with reasonable term limits. 24 years total, for both House and Senate. That's a 12-term congressman, a 4-term Senator or a combination, such as 3 terms in Congress and 3 terms in the Senate.

                                        I also have a very big problem with getting rich while serving. If a person is elected to Congress, ALL investments go into a blind trust for the duration of their service. All of their spouse's investments go into a blind trust. ANY communication between the elected official and the trust, besides normal quarterly statements and tax documents will result in immediate malfeasance charges and if proven guilty, immediate impeachment.

                                        And...All elected officials and any civil servant above the grade of GS-14, shall be barred from any lobbying job for a period of 12 years past their last date of service.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Jolly said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                                        Might have to have an amendment, but I have no problem with reasonable term limits. 24 years total, for both House and Senate. That's a 12-term congressman, a 4-term Senator or a combination, such as 3 terms in Congress and 3 terms in the Senate.

                                        I also have a very big problem with getting rich while serving. If a person is elected to Congress, ALL investments go into a blind trust for the duration of their service. All of their spouse's investments go into a blind trust. ANY communication between the elected official and the trust, besides normal quarterly statements and tax documents will result in immediate malfeasance charges and if proven guilty, immediate impeachment.

                                        And...All elected officials and any civil servant above the grade of GS-14, shall be barred from any lobbying job for a period of 12 years past their last date of service.

                                        Also, insider trading rules should apply to congress people, the same as they do to everybody else.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @George-K said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                                          extremely lucrative

                                          "At some point, you've made enough money."

                                          obama-house-10-817844008.jpeg

                                          Yeah, but he made his money by being an ex-President and world-renowned author.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Feinstein returns to the Senate. Sort of.:

                                          Yeah, but he made his money by being an ex-President and world-renowned author.

                                          Yeah, at which point was it enough?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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