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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    Yeah, it's probably about time. These things aren't your father's battery.

    I've told my story about the thing exploding in our lab more than once.

    I was only joking

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      So....since these things are in EV's and darn near everything else, what is the next big thing?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        Yeah, it's probably about time. These things aren't your father's battery.

        I've told my story about the thing exploding in our lab more than once.

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        Aqua Letifer
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

        Yeah, it's probably about time. These things aren't your father's battery.

        I've told my story about the thing exploding in our lab more than once.

        Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

        Please love yourself.

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          jon-nyc
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          #5

          The explosions are very rare on a percentage basis but we’re getting to where the average American owns 10+ devices with these inside of them.

          They’ve been banned in checked bags for several years now.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Jolly

            So....since these things are in EV's and darn near everything else, what is the next big thing?

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            #6

            @Jolly I think they can be engineered to be safer.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              The explosions are very rare on a percentage basis but we’re getting to where the average American owns 10+ devices with these inside of them.

              They’ve been banned in checked bags for several years now.

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              George K
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              @jon-nyc said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

              The explosions are very rare on a percentage basis but we’re getting to where the average American owns 10+ devices with these inside of them.
              They’ve been banned in checked bags for several years now.

              I've had one phone and two battery packs "expand"...

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                Yeah, it's probably about time. These things aren't your father's battery.

                I've told my story about the thing exploding in our lab more than once.

                Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

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                @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                There are regulations concerning the production, storage, transportation, and dispensation of gasoline, too.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                  Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                  There are regulations concerning the production, storage, transportation, and dispensation of gasoline, too.

                  alt text

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                  Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                  There are regulations concerning the production, storage, transportation, and dispensation of gasoline, too.

                  alt text

                  Oh wow, I had no idea. Are there regulations regarding firearms, too?

                  Please love yourself.

                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                    Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                    There are regulations concerning the production, storage, transportation, and dispensation of gasoline, too.

                    alt text

                    Oh wow, I had no idea. Are there regulations regarding firearms, too?

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                    Jolly
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                    @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                    Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                    There are regulations concerning the production, storage, transportation, and dispensation of gasoline, too.

                    alt text

                    Oh wow, I had no idea. Are there regulations regarding firearms, too?

                    The gas tank thing is laughable. Everybody I know takes those silly safety spouts and throws them in the garbage as soon as they get the container home. There is a small cottage industry making replacement spouts and vents.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                      @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                      Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                      There are regulations concerning the production, storage, transportation, and dispensation of gasoline, too.

                      alt text

                      Oh wow, I had no idea. Are there regulations regarding firearms, too?

                      The gas tank thing is laughable. Everybody I know takes those silly safety spouts and throws them in the garbage as soon as they get the container home. There is a small cottage industry making replacement spouts and vents.

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      @Jolly said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                      @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                      Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                      There are regulations concerning the production, storage, transportation, and dispensation of gasoline, too.

                      alt text

                      Oh wow, I had no idea. Are there regulations regarding firearms, too?

                      The gas tank thing is laughable. Everybody I know takes those silly safety spouts and throws them in the garbage as soon as they get the container home. There is a small cottage industry making replacement spouts and vents.

                      The only people I've EVER seen use one of those have been people who: (1) ran out of gas for the first time and (2) bought the can off the rack at the gas station.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Yes, they are unusable, if you can get the spout to open they spill gas all over the place.

                        So I have a replacement valve/spout that still spills gas, but not as much.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                          Yeah, it's probably about time. These things aren't your father's battery.

                          I've told my story about the thing exploding in our lab more than once.

                          Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                          Yeah, it's probably about time. These things aren't your father's battery.

                          I've told my story about the thing exploding in our lab more than once.

                          Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                          Well, obviously, but there are a lot of pretty strict regulations about handling gasoline. It's related to what I do for a living. The battery stuff is just catching up.

                          I've actually dealt with people in the safety industry who think that lithium batteries should be banned in industrial environments where explosive gases are present. It's a minority view, since getting rid of them would be a lot more dangerous than keeping them due to the loss of functionality, but if you get these guys going they'll go on about it for hours.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                            Yeah, it's probably about time. These things aren't your father's battery.

                            I've told my story about the thing exploding in our lab more than once.

                            Thank goodness gasoline isn't so volatile like that!

                            Well, obviously, but there are a lot of pretty strict regulations about handling gasoline. It's related to what I do for a living. The battery stuff is just catching up.

                            I've actually dealt with people in the safety industry who think that lithium batteries should be banned in industrial environments where explosive gases are present. It's a minority view, since getting rid of them would be a lot more dangerous than keeping them due to the loss of functionality, but if you get these guys going they'll go on about it for hours.

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                            Axtremus
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                            @Doctor-Phibes , I once visited an underground coal mine and had long talks with the engineers there. One safety engineer, in particular, went into all sorts of spark prevention safety measures that they had to take with just about every piece of electronic they are allowed to take into the mine. It was quite eye opening.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @Doctor-Phibes , I once visited an underground coal mine and had long talks with the engineers there. One safety engineer, in particular, went into all sorts of spark prevention safety measures that they had to take with just about every piece of electronic they are allowed to take into the mine. It was quite eye opening.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @Axtremus said in Meanwhile, in New York...:

                              @Doctor-Phibes , I once visited an underground coal mine and had long talks with the engineers there. One safety engineer, in particular, went into all sorts of spark prevention safety measures that they had to take with just about every piece of electronic they are allowed to take into the mine. It was quite eye opening.

                              That's my job. Intrinsic safety. You limit the energy to levels that won't cause an ignition. Coal mining is a little different, as the underground aspect causes additional hazards, but the concepts are the same.

                              The alternative method is to put the electronics in an explosionproof enclosure (i.e. a big metal box), that prevents an explosion from spreading, but that's a little unsophisticated, as are the people who do it.

                              I was only joking

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