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    https://www.theonion.com/dune-part-two-to-pick-up-right-where-viewers-fell-as-1850378546

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      This is the 3rd attempt at making a movie out of Herbert's book (fourth if you consider Jodorowsky's Dune. None of them are perfect and there's an ongoing debate over who "got it right." For the longest time, even after some have been made, the book was considered "unfilmable."

      I enjoyed this version. It's pretty close to Herbert's storyline, with some characters amplified, understated or omitted.

      But, I'm reminded of James SA Corey's comments about translating a novel to screen, and dealing with the voices who complain about the differences: "There's a ton of ways to tell 'The Batman' story. They all differ, but they all tell the same story, more or less. Chill."

      All that said, yeah, this one did move slowly, but that was, I believe intentional, for the story is so complex that it requires a lot of exposition. Lynch's version had a narrator get you up to speed. The SciFy channel was hours and hours long, suited to a mini-series. To try to fill the story into a feature-length movie would be a fool's errand. He did the right thing.

      Then, of course, props to The Onion.

      Edit add: What the actual hell kind of a name is "Timothee?"

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        This is the 3rd attempt at making a movie out of Herbert's book (fourth if you consider Jodorowsky's Dune. None of them are perfect and there's an ongoing debate over who "got it right." For the longest time, even after some have been made, the book was considered "unfilmable."

        I enjoyed this version. It's pretty close to Herbert's storyline, with some characters amplified, understated or omitted.

        But, I'm reminded of James SA Corey's comments about translating a novel to screen, and dealing with the voices who complain about the differences: "There's a ton of ways to tell 'The Batman' story. They all differ, but they all tell the same story, more or less. Chill."

        All that said, yeah, this one did move slowly, but that was, I believe intentional, for the story is so complex that it requires a lot of exposition. Lynch's version had a narrator get you up to speed. The SciFy channel was hours and hours long, suited to a mini-series. To try to fill the story into a feature-length movie would be a fool's errand. He did the right thing.

        Then, of course, props to The Onion.

        Edit add: What the actual hell kind of a name is "Timothee?"

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        @George-K said in Hey SciFi guys:

        All that said, yeah, this one did move slowly,

        So did the book. Everything the most recent movie covered was slow-as-hell reading.

        But that was the point. Herbert planted the suspense early on, so the quiet development only adds to that.

        Dune ain't Star Wars.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @George-K said in Hey SciFi guys:

          All that said, yeah, this one did move slowly,

          So did the book. Everything the most recent movie covered was slow-as-hell reading.

          But that was the point. Herbert planted the suspense early on, so the quiet development only adds to that.

          Dune ain't Star Wars.

          George KG Offline
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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey SciFi guys:

          So did the book. Everything the most recent movie covered was slow-as-hell reading.
          But that was the point. Herbert planted the suspense early on, so the quiet development only adds to that.
          Dune ain't Star Wars.

          Bingo...

          I've read "Dune" three times, the first time in the early 1980s. It's slow as hell, until it's not.

          But, I really had a hard time with the later sequels. Too much mysticism and weirdo crap.

          As someone who enjoys "hard" sci-fi, I've enjoyed the prequels written by Brian Herbert and Anderson. No question, they're much more "pop-corner" than Franks' story.

          But they're not as pop-corney as Star Wars, and they do a credible (if not always great) job of setting the stage for what Frank envisioned: The Bene Gesiret, The Spacing Guild, the backstory of Atreides and Harkonnen.

          I love Dune.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey SciFi guys:

            So did the book. Everything the most recent movie covered was slow-as-hell reading.
            But that was the point. Herbert planted the suspense early on, so the quiet development only adds to that.
            Dune ain't Star Wars.

            Bingo...

            I've read "Dune" three times, the first time in the early 1980s. It's slow as hell, until it's not.

            But, I really had a hard time with the later sequels. Too much mysticism and weirdo crap.

            As someone who enjoys "hard" sci-fi, I've enjoyed the prequels written by Brian Herbert and Anderson. No question, they're much more "pop-corner" than Franks' story.

            But they're not as pop-corney as Star Wars, and they do a credible (if not always great) job of setting the stage for what Frank envisioned: The Bene Gesiret, The Spacing Guild, the backstory of Atreides and Harkonnen.

            I love Dune.

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            @George-K said in Hey SciFi guys:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey SciFi guys:

            So did the book. Everything the most recent movie covered was slow-as-hell reading.
            But that was the point. Herbert planted the suspense early on, so the quiet development only adds to that.
            Dune ain't Star Wars.

            Bingo...

            I've read "Dune" three times, the first time in the early 1980s. It's slow as hell, until it's not.

            But, I really had a hard time with the later sequels. Too much mysticism and weirdo crap.

            As someone who enjoys "hard" sci-fi, I've enjoyed the prequels written by Brian Herbert and Anderson. No question, they're much more "pop-corner" than Franks' story.

            But they're not as pop-corney as Star Wars, and they do a credible (if not always great) job of setting the stage for what Frank envisioned: The Bene Gesiret, The Spacing Guild, the backstory of Atreides and Harkonnen.

            I love Dune.

            He should have stopped at three books, in my humble opinion. It got really stupid after that, but it's a great book.

            I was only joking

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            • George KG George K

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey SciFi guys:

              So did the book. Everything the most recent movie covered was slow-as-hell reading.
              But that was the point. Herbert planted the suspense early on, so the quiet development only adds to that.
              Dune ain't Star Wars.

              Bingo...

              I've read "Dune" three times, the first time in the early 1980s. It's slow as hell, until it's not.

              But, I really had a hard time with the later sequels. Too much mysticism and weirdo crap.

              As someone who enjoys "hard" sci-fi, I've enjoyed the prequels written by Brian Herbert and Anderson. No question, they're much more "pop-corner" than Franks' story.

              But they're not as pop-corney as Star Wars, and they do a credible (if not always great) job of setting the stage for what Frank envisioned: The Bene Gesiret, The Spacing Guild, the backstory of Atreides and Harkonnen.

              I love Dune.

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              @George-K said in Hey SciFi guys:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey SciFi guys:

              So did the book. Everything the most recent movie covered was slow-as-hell reading.
              But that was the point. Herbert planted the suspense early on, so the quiet development only adds to that.
              Dune ain't Star Wars.

              Bingo...

              I've read "Dune" three times, the first time in the early 1980s. It's slow as hell, until it's not.

              But, I really had a hard time with the later sequels. Too much mysticism and weirdo crap.

              As someone who enjoys "hard" sci-fi, I've enjoyed the prequels written by Brian Herbert and Anderson. No question, they're much more "pop-corner" than Franks' story.

              But they're not as pop-corney as Star Wars, and they do a credible (if not always great) job of setting the stage for what Frank envisioned: The Bene Gesiret, The Spacing Guild, the backstory of Atreides and Harkonnen.

              I love Dune.

              Right now, I'm reading the graphic novel version Brian Herbert did on the original book. Tons of fun.

              Please love yourself.

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