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The Tucker Speech

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Did y'all catch it when Tucker channeled Horace?

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    George K
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    @Jolly said in The Tucker Speech:

    Did y'all catch it when Tucker channeled Horace?

    I only watched the first 3-4 minutes, and found it little different from what he says on the air.

    Where's the @Horace part?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @Jolly said in The Tucker Speech:

      Did y'all catch it when Tucker channeled Horace?

      I only watched the first 3-4 minutes, and found it little different from what he says on the air.

      Where's the @Horace part?

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      @George-K said in The Tucker Speech:

      @Jolly said in The Tucker Speech:

      Did y'all catch it when Tucker channeled Horace?

      I only watched the first 3-4 minutes, and found it little different from what he says on the air.

      Where's the @Horace part?

      He spoke about how several years ago, he naively thought you could debate some issues like abortion or the rise of the LGBQT movement politically and with logic. He has come to the conclusion that many people who are proponents of those and other viewpoints are not debating politics. He found he was trying to engage in a political debate with a person who was engaging in a theological debate.

      He then moved on to the point that it was destructive theology. What are the constructs of a good religion or even Athenian logic? Order, Peace, Tranquility, Cleanliness, etc. What are the end results of the current destructive theology? The theology that believes it is proper and correct for children to overtly sexualize themselves, to mutilate themselves in the name of sexuality or for abortion at any gestational period. The logical endpoints of such thought and actions are Discord, Trauma, Self-loathing, Child sacrifice and Filth.

      Why would any sane society embrace that much religious Evil?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        #5

        Actually, I believe that Larry was the first TNCR poster to equate or describe this neo-Jacobin malice and destructiveness to a cult religion. Others here picked up and expanded on it.

        In any case I listened to whole bombastic video. His points are well taken despite the hysterical vocal squelch and facial dramatics. The theatrics only serve to detract from the message Carlson was at pain to convey.

        Elbows up!

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          Horace
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          The religious aspect of leftism is best described by John McWhorter IMO. It's not a new idea, but he's a powerful communicator of it, as a black man who focuses on the race narrative aspect.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            The religious aspect of leftism is best described by John McWhorter IMO. It's not a new idea, but he's a powerful communicator of it, as a black man who focuses on the race narrative aspect.

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            @Horace

            No it’s not a new idea. It was widely used in the 192os to describe Bolshevism. It could very well have predated 1917 in fact and go back as far as the French Revolution.

            Napoleon though simply described it as mob rule and accordingly loaded his cannon with grape shot.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              @Horace

              No it’s not a new idea. It was widely used in the 192os to describe Bolshevism. It could very well have predated 1917 in fact and go back as far as the French Revolution.

              Napoleon though simply described it as mob rule and accordingly loaded his cannon with grape shot.

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              @Renauda said in The Tucker Speech:

              @Horace

              No it’s not a new idea. It was widely used in the 192os to describe Bolshevism. It could very well have predated 1917 in fact and go back as far as the French Revolution.

              Napoleon though simply described it as mob rule and accordingly loaded his cannon with grape shot.

              Historical analogies would need to involve high status individuals waging populism wars by proxy, via a conceit where they see themselves as the good guys, who've won the status game, and now seek to meld their status seeking ways with the need to see themselves as the savior of the status losers. Academia and the institutions in general have become overwhelmed by this closet religious philosophy, largely due to a feminization of the institutions.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @Renauda said in The Tucker Speech:

                @Horace

                No it’s not a new idea. It was widely used in the 192os to describe Bolshevism. It could very well have predated 1917 in fact and go back as far as the French Revolution.

                Napoleon though simply described it as mob rule and accordingly loaded his cannon with grape shot.

                Historical analogies would need to involve high status individuals waging populism wars by proxy, via a conceit where they see themselves as the good guys, who've won the status game, and now seek to meld their status seeking ways with the need to see themselves as the savior of the status losers. Academia and the institutions in general have become overwhelmed by this closet religious philosophy, largely due to a feminization of the institutions.

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                Renauda
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                @Horace

                Regardless, I was only agreeing with what you wrote that it is not a new idea.

                Not a new idea.

                Elbows up!

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  The religious aspect of leftism is best described by John McWhorter IMO. It's not a new idea, but he's a powerful communicator of it, as a black man who focuses on the race narrative aspect.

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                  @Horace said in The Tucker Speech:

                  The religious aspect of leftism is best described by John McWhorter IMO. It's not a new idea, but he's a powerful communicator of it, as a black man who focuses on the race narrative aspect.

                  This conversation was released by Glenn Loury and John McWhorter today on their regular feed. A colleague of John's named Mark Goldblatt recently released a book on this subject.

                  It's a nuanced conversation. It touches on trans stuff and how that interacts with LGBTQ stuff. Goldblatt appears further to the right than the two protagonists. He is even willing to go so far as to call transgenderism a mental illness. But they are all willing to listen. You don't get that willingness to listen, ever, throughout all public intellectual conversation, when the conversation involves the religious left.

                  Link to video

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @Horace

                    Regardless, I was only agreeing with what you wrote that it is not a new idea.

                    Not a new idea.

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                    @Renauda said in The Tucker Speech:

                    @Horace

                    Regardless, I was only agreeing with what you wrote that it is not a new idea.

                    Not a new idea.

                    Outside of science and technology, there aren't very many new ideas.

                    Just lots of old mistakes.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Renauda said in The Tucker Speech:

                      @Horace

                      Regardless, I was only agreeing with what you wrote that it is not a new idea.

                      Not a new idea.

                      Outside of science and technology, there aren't very many new ideas.

                      Just lots of old mistakes.

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                      Horace
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                      @Jolly said in The Tucker Speech:

                      @Renauda said in The Tucker Speech:

                      @Horace

                      Regardless, I was only agreeing with what you wrote that it is not a new idea.

                      Not a new idea.

                      Outside of science and technology, there aren't very many new ideas.

                      Just lots of old mistakes.

                      And the ever-maligned conservatives said Amen.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Renauda said in The Tucker Speech:

                        @Horace

                        Regardless, I was only agreeing with what you wrote that it is not a new idea.

                        Not a new idea.

                        Outside of science and technology, there aren't very many new ideas.

                        Just lots of old mistakes.

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                        Renauda
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                        @Jolly

                        Just lots of old mistakes

                        That’s a given, been that way since before humanoids began to make tools.

                        Elbows up!

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