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Hay Jon! A thread about A1AT

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    George K
    wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 23:24 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 00:23 last edited by
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      Very cool.

      On Friday night in Dublin I had dinner with the guy that came up with this hypothesis and is the lead author on the paper cited in the tweet.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 00:27 last edited by jon-nyc
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        Our most promising liver treatment at the moment is an RNA silencing drug that stops the SERPINA1 gene from being expressed at all, so no AAT protein made at all.

        No Z protein made, the globules of previously-produced polymerized AAT in the hepatocytes clear in just a few months, and it seems that any fibrosis present starts to heal too, but we need more data on that. We’re recruiting for a registrational trial on that as we speak.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 00:58 last edited by
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          It is interesting in general that skilled pulmonologists often don’t understand the liver aspect of the disease. My own pulmonologist at Duke once asked me if the infused augmentation therapy works on the liver disease.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            17 Apr 2023, 00:58

            It is interesting in general that skilled pulmonologists often don’t understand the liver aspect of the disease. My own pulmonologist at Duke once asked me if the infused augmentation therapy works on the liver disease.

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            George K
            wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 01:06 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Hay Jon! A thread about A1AT:

            It is interesting in general that skilled pulmonologists often don’t understand the liver aspect of the disease. My own pulmonologist at Duke once asked me if the infused augmentation therapy works on the liver disease.

            The ultra-specialization of medicine continues. This thread is full of physiology and biochemistry that I don't understand. That's not because I'm (too) stupid, it's because of things that I have not been exposed to in 45 years since I finished medical school. I have little doubt that if I started discussing pharmacology, analysis of arterial waveforms, these guys would be out of their field as well.

            Nevertheless, I find myself frustrated by my ignorance.

            Not to derail - well, maybe to derail a bit - there's a whole generation of gas passers who are trained in using ultrasonography for nerve blocks. These guys are sticking needles into places I would never have imagined, as recently as 10 years ago.

            I'm such a dinosaur.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              17 Apr 2023, 01:06

              @jon-nyc said in Hay Jon! A thread about A1AT:

              It is interesting in general that skilled pulmonologists often don’t understand the liver aspect of the disease. My own pulmonologist at Duke once asked me if the infused augmentation therapy works on the liver disease.

              The ultra-specialization of medicine continues. This thread is full of physiology and biochemistry that I don't understand. That's not because I'm (too) stupid, it's because of things that I have not been exposed to in 45 years since I finished medical school. I have little doubt that if I started discussing pharmacology, analysis of arterial waveforms, these guys would be out of their field as well.

              Nevertheless, I find myself frustrated by my ignorance.

              Not to derail - well, maybe to derail a bit - there's a whole generation of gas passers who are trained in using ultrasonography for nerve blocks. These guys are sticking needles into places I would never have imagined, as recently as 10 years ago.

              I'm such a dinosaur.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 01:09 last edited by
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              @George-K .

              I'm such a dinosaur.

              But that is good news, it means there’s been great progress in the relatively few years since you retired.

              But yeah, I get it.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 03:40 last edited by
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                7 years.

                Rule of thumb in medical tech. You stay out of the field for 7 years and the tech changes enough so that competency at Standard of Care level is no longer assured.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 13:06 last edited by
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                  You should be in IT. You sit out a couple years and everything has changed.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    17 Apr 2023, 13:06

                    You should be in IT. You sit out a couple years and everything has changed.

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                    mark
                    wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 14:35 last edited by
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                    @Mik said in Hay Jon! A thread about A1AT:

                    You should be in IT. You sit out a couple years and everything has changed.

                    Faster than anything out there.

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