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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #1

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      A sort-of related question. Let's put the panties on the other side.

      How many X-X chromosome-carrying people have tried to compete in sports/events in which X-Y chromosome-carrying people have traditionally won?

      Swimming?
      Weights?
      Tennis?
      Track?
      Shot Put?
      Soccer?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Friday
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        #3

        Forget her "dancing". Her look is awful for ballet. Limbs are too short and heavy. Can you see her doing a pas de deux as Odette?

        She would look better in modern dance.

        Edit to add that she can't even to the positions correctly.

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        • George KG George K

          A sort-of related question. Let's put the panties on the other side.

          How many X-X chromosome-carrying people have tried to compete in sports/events in which X-Y chromosome-carrying people have traditionally won?

          Swimming?
          Weights?
          Tennis?
          Track?
          Shot Put?
          Soccer?

          Doctor PhibesD Offline
          Doctor PhibesD Offline
          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
          #4

          @George-K said in At the Ballet:

          A sort-of related question. Let's put the panties on the other side.

          How many X-X chromosome-carrying people have tried to compete in sports/events in which X-Y chromosome-carrying people have traditionally won?

          Swimming?
          Weights?
          Tennis?
          Track?
          Shot Put?
          Soccer?

          Judit Polgar did very well in male chess, which is extremely male-dominated. I know it's not physical, but she's the only woman to ever play at that level, and obviously she chose to do it rather than play in the women's championship. World Champion Garry Kasparov had to change his initial opinion that she didn't have the physique to be able to play at the top level after she beat him.

          I was only joking

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
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            #5

            The Royal Ballet Academy did an experiment. It took a risk.

            The more creative you expect to be over time, the more risks you need to take on and the more experiments you need to do. Keep doing things exactly the same way time after time and your art will eventually become stale.

            Institutions take risks and experiment from time to time placing bets on candidates that do not fit their usual criteria for admission.

            Some experiments work out, some don't. And that's OK. Maybe they learn something from some of their experiments and make some other experiments later on. It's better than not doing any new experiment at all -- the art is guaranteed to become stale without experimentation.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #6

              I'm finding Oli London really quite annoying. The only reason that he's achieved the minor celebrity status he enjoys is because he's had all that surgery to make him look "more Korean". Now, he's lecturing the world on how stupid the trans movement is, and how this is an insult to women.

              He should fuck off.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                I'm finding Oli London really quite annoying. The only reason that he's achieved the minor celebrity status he enjoys is because he's had all that surgery to make him look "more Korean". Now, he's lecturing the world on how stupid the trans movement is, and how this is an insult to women.

                He should fuck off.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #7

                @Doctor-Phibes said in At the Ballet:

                Oli London

                I know nothing of him. Just came across this tweet.

                ETA: I just looked him up.

                Well.

                That's .... unusual.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #8

                  Remember when men dressed in tutus and dancing was considered high comedy?

                  The Brad

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #9

                    "It" is a joke.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • F Friday

                      Forget her "dancing". Her look is awful for ballet. Limbs are too short and heavy. Can you see her doing a pas de deux as Odette?

                      She would look better in modern dance.

                      Edit to add that she can't even to the positions correctly.

                      Catseye3C Offline
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                      Catseye3
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                      #10

                      @Friday said in At the Ballet:

                      Forget her "dancing". Her look is awful for ballet.

                      I had the same thought. Balenchine is spinning in his grave.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        The Royal Ballet Academy did an experiment. It took a risk.

                        The more creative you expect to be over time, the more risks you need to take on and the more experiments you need to do. Keep doing things exactly the same way time after time and your art will eventually become stale.

                        Institutions take risks and experiment from time to time placing bets on candidates that do not fit their usual criteria for admission.

                        Some experiments work out, some don't. And that's OK. Maybe they learn something from some of their experiments and make some other experiments later on. It's better than not doing any new experiment at all -- the art is guaranteed to become stale without experimentation.

                        Catseye3C Offline
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                        Catseye3
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                        #11

                        @Axtremus said in At the Ballet:

                        The more creative you expect to be over time, the more risks you need to take on and the more experiments you need to do

                        Can't agree. Classical ballet has fixed rules governing the desired look, and if you want experimentation there are plenty of schools of dance already out there.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in At the Ballet:

                          Oli London

                          I know nothing of him. Just came across this tweet.

                          ETA: I just looked him up.

                          Well.

                          That's .... unusual.

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #12

                          @George-K said in At the Ballet:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in At the Ballet:

                          Oli London

                          I know nothing of him. Just came across this tweet.

                          ETA: I just looked him up.

                          Well.

                          That's .... unusual.

                          Yeah, it's fair to say that he's more than a little eccentric. Now he's poacher turned game-keeper. He might be better off tidying his room as JP would say, but I guess he feels he's got to make a living somehow.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @George-K said in At the Ballet:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in At the Ballet:

                            Oli London

                            I know nothing of him. Just came across this tweet.

                            ETA: I just looked him up.

                            Well.

                            That's .... unusual.

                            Yeah, it's fair to say that he's more than a little eccentric. Now he's poacher turned game-keeper. He might be better off tidying his room as JP would say, but I guess he feels he's got to make a living somehow.

                            RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Doctor-Phibes

                            …more than a little eccentric…..

                            I think it’s fair to say he’s barking mad crackers.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              #14

                              Remember, this person was too tall to be a ballerina...

                              Link to video

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                #15

                                I wanna see someone lift "Sophia" during Swan Lake

                                image.jpeg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  I wanna see someone lift "Sophia" during Swan Lake

                                  image.jpeg

                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @George-K

                                  That brings to mind:

                                  Link to video

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                    #17

                                    It's clearly not going to be possible for this person to dance professionally in a regular sense. They weren't ever accepted at the Royal Academy for that reason.

                                    I went out with a girl who was shortlisted for the Royal Academy of Music, which is the musical equivalent of this place, and that was unbelievably hard to get into - she was very gifted, and still didn't make it. She missed out by a single place, I think.

                                    You've got to wonder where we're going to end up when all this is done.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      It's clearly not going to be possible for this person to dance professionally in a regular sense. They weren't ever accepted at the Royal Academy for that reason.

                                      I went out with a girl who was shortlisted for the Royal Academy of Music, which is the musical equivalent of this place, and that was unbelievably hard to get into - she was very gifted, and still didn't make it. She missed out by a single place, I think.

                                      You've got to wonder where we're going to end up when all this is done.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in At the Ballet:

                                      They weren't ever accepted at the Royal Academy for that reason.

                                      The hell you say...

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        It's clearly not going to be possible for this person to dance professionally in a regular sense. They weren't ever accepted at the Royal Academy for that reason.

                                        I went out with a girl who was shortlisted for the Royal Academy of Music, which is the musical equivalent of this place, and that was unbelievably hard to get into - she was very gifted, and still didn't make it. She missed out by a single place, I think.

                                        You've got to wonder where we're going to end up when all this is done.

                                        JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in At the Ballet:

                                        It's clearly not going to be possible for this person to dance professionally in a regular sense. They weren't ever accepted at the Royal Academy for that reason.

                                        I went out with a girl who was shortlisted for the Royal Academy of Music, which is the musical equivalent of this place, and that was unbelievably hard to get into - she was very gifted, and still didn't make it. She missed out by a single place, I think.

                                        You've got to wonder where we're going to end up when all this is done.

                                        Much less than mediocrity.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in At the Ballet:

                                          They weren't ever accepted at the Royal Academy for that reason.

                                          The hell you say...

                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          #20

                                          @George-K said in At the Ballet:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in At the Ballet:

                                          They weren't ever accepted at the Royal Academy for that reason.

                                          The hell you say...

                                          It's really unprofessional and unfair on her for them to take her on. It's great living your dream and all that, but it presumably isn't cheap living in the center of London, and paying whatever she's paying. This isn't a reality TV show, after all.

                                          I was only joking

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