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    George K
    wrote on 4 Nov 2022, 14:56 last edited by
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    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 14:06 last edited by
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      Has anyone seen this yet?

      Looks very intriguing. She was on Colbert a while ago, and she told the orchestra she conducted in the film, "I'm not a conductor, and you're not actors. Let's get together and see if we can make this work."

      She was nominated for an Oscar for her performance.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        12 Apr 2023, 14:06

        Has anyone seen this yet?

        Looks very intriguing. She was on Colbert a while ago, and she told the orchestra she conducted in the film, "I'm not a conductor, and you're not actors. Let's get together and see if we can make this work."

        She was nominated for an Oscar for her performance.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 14:20 last edited by
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        @George-K said in TAR:

        Has anyone seen this yet?

        Looks very intriguing.

        I certainly want to see it - I saw this a couple of weeks ago about her piano playing in the movie

        Link to video

        I was only joking

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 14:32 last edited by
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          Haven’t seen the movie, mostly because I generally do not have much interest in biopics these days. How entertaining can a person’s life be? If it’s entertaining, it’s probably not authentic. If it’s authentic, it’s unlikely to be entertaining. I looked at movie listings and saw Tár many times in the listings while it was in theaters, and I asked myself many time “do I really want to know anything more about this person’s life,” and I kept coming back with the answer “no.”

          I enjoyed Bohemian Rhapsody (the movie) because I enjoyed the music, not because I care much about Freddie Mercury. Following that I watched an Elton John biopic, and quickly realized that I enjoyed it a lot less — I simply did not enjoy the music as much, and I similarly do not care much about Elton John’s personal life. I have been skipping biopics of famous real-life entertainers ever since.

          Tár? She would keep rehashing old classics, ones even older than Freddie Mercury or Elton John would. Despite having aspired to conducting orchestras professionally as a young person, these days I simply have no interest in knowing how those in the rarified circle of leading world class orchestras live their lives.

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            12 Apr 2023, 14:20

            @George-K said in TAR:

            Has anyone seen this yet?

            Looks very intriguing.

            I certainly want to see it - I saw this a couple of weeks ago about her piano playing in the movie

            Link to video

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            George K
            wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 14:32 last edited by
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            @Doctor-Phibes

            "The architect of your soul appears to be social media."

            Womp, womp, womp.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              12 Apr 2023, 14:32

              Haven’t seen the movie, mostly because I generally do not have much interest in biopics these days. How entertaining can a person’s life be? If it’s entertaining, it’s probably not authentic. If it’s authentic, it’s unlikely to be entertaining. I looked at movie listings and saw Tár many times in the listings while it was in theaters, and I asked myself many time “do I really want to know anything more about this person’s life,” and I kept coming back with the answer “no.”

              I enjoyed Bohemian Rhapsody (the movie) because I enjoyed the music, not because I care much about Freddie Mercury. Following that I watched an Elton John biopic, and quickly realized that I enjoyed it a lot less — I simply did not enjoy the music as much, and I similarly do not care much about Elton John’s personal life. I have been skipping biopics of famous real-life entertainers ever since.

              Tár? She would keep rehashing old classics, ones even older than Freddie Mercury or Elton John would. Despite having aspired to conducting orchestras professionally as a young person, these days I simply have no interest in knowing how those in the rarified circle of leading world class orchestras live their lives.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 12 Apr 2023, 14:47 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Dec 2023, 14:48
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              @Axtremus said in TAR:

              Haven’t seen the movie, mostly because I generally do not have much interest in biopics these days. How entertaining can a person’s life be? If it’s entertaining, it’s probably not authentic. If it’s authentic, it’s unlikely to be entertaining. I looked at movie listings and saw Tár many times in the listings while it was in theaters, and I asked myself many time “do I really want to know anything more about this person’s life,” and I kept coming back with the answer “no.”

              I enjoyed Bohemian Rhapsody (the movie) because I enjoyed the music, not because I care much about Freddie Mercury. Following that I watched an Elton John biopic, and quickly realized that I enjoyed it a lot less — I simply did not enjoy the music as much, and I similarly do not care much about Elton John’s personal life. I have been skipping biopics of famous real-life entertainers ever since.

              Tár? She would keep rehashing old classics, ones even older than Freddie Mercury or Elton John would. Despite having aspired to conducting orchestras professionally as a young person, these days I simply have no interest in knowing how those in the rarified circle of leading world class orchestras live their lives.

              It's not a biopic, as it's not about a real person. It's described as a psychological drama, but it sounds as though they've really done their homework regarding the music.

              I was only joking

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                George K
                wrote on 14 Apr 2023, 12:10 last edited by
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                Worth the $6 rental...

                Very, very well done. There's lots of "insider" stuff that only classical geeks will get and appreciate (references to Levine, Dutoit, Karajan) which made it kind of fun.

                Blanchett is remarkable. During rehearsals, how she casually slips from German to English without a thought is great.

                The person who plays "Olga" the cellist is NOT an actor, but a professional cellist who wanted to act, so she watched Michael Caine's acting to learn. She has a small-ish but important role.

                But...

                What a depressing movie. A sad, sad ending. I don't know how it could have gone any other way, but geez.

                Of note, "Tär's" talking about how she interacted with Leonard Bernstein are probably made up - she only recalls them in her fantasy. Bernstein died in 1990, and Tär appears to be in her late 40s - the movie is set in current day.

                Worth the watch.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  14 Apr 2023, 12:10

                  Worth the $6 rental...

                  Very, very well done. There's lots of "insider" stuff that only classical geeks will get and appreciate (references to Levine, Dutoit, Karajan) which made it kind of fun.

                  Blanchett is remarkable. During rehearsals, how she casually slips from German to English without a thought is great.

                  The person who plays "Olga" the cellist is NOT an actor, but a professional cellist who wanted to act, so she watched Michael Caine's acting to learn. She has a small-ish but important role.

                  But...

                  What a depressing movie. A sad, sad ending. I don't know how it could have gone any other way, but geez.

                  Of note, "Tär's" talking about how she interacted with Leonard Bernstein are probably made up - she only recalls them in her fantasy. Bernstein died in 1990, and Tär appears to be in her late 40s - the movie is set in current day.

                  Worth the watch.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 14 Apr 2023, 13:03 last edited by
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                  @George-K said in TAR:

                  Of note, "Tär's" talking about how she interacted with Leonard Bernstein are probably made up - she only recalls them in her fantasy. Bernstein died in 1990, and Tär appears to be in her late 40s - the movie is set in current day.

                  Makes sense.

                  https://www.bigissue.com/culture/film/is-lydia-tar-based-on-a-real-person/

                  It says the fictional Lydia Tar character is largely based on Marin Alsop, a Bernstein student.

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                    14 Apr 2023, 13:03

                    @George-K said in TAR:

                    Of note, "Tär's" talking about how she interacted with Leonard Bernstein are probably made up - she only recalls them in her fantasy. Bernstein died in 1990, and Tär appears to be in her late 40s - the movie is set in current day.

                    Makes sense.

                    https://www.bigissue.com/culture/film/is-lydia-tar-based-on-a-real-person/

                    It says the fictional Lydia Tar character is largely based on Marin Alsop, a Bernstein student.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 14 Apr 2023, 13:10 last edited by
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                    @Axtremus said in TAR:

                    It says the fictional Lydia Tar character is largely based on Marin Alsop, a Bernstein student.

                    Yeah, I've seen that as well. Gotta wonder how much is factual.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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