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34 Counts of falsifying business records

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #39

    How 'bout this one?

    Fat Alvin caught Trump cheating on his taxes. He overpaid!

    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/04/05/you-wont-believe-the-most-outrageous-claim-in-the-trump-indictment-n1684705

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      FEC Commissioner - No campaign finance crime here.

      A key member of the Federal Election Commission today rejected the Manhattan district attorney’s indictment of former President Donald Trump as a violation of federal election laws.

      “It's not a campaign finance violation. It's not a reporting violation of any kind,” said FEC Commissioner James E. “Trey” Trainor.

      In trying to stretch the law to make it look like a violation, he added, District Attorney Alvin Bragg “is really trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole.”

      In a 34-count indictment of Trump, the first criminal case ever against a former president, Bragg charged that a $130,000 payment made by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen to porn star Stormy Daniels, which Cohen went to jail for in a plea deal, violated several campaign finance laws that splashed onto Trump.

      But, said Trainor, the FEC and Justice Department already considered the case and tossed it.

      With that as background, Trainor told Secrets today that it will be hard for a judge or jury to come up with a different conclusion since it’s the FEC and DOJ that prosecute federal campaign finance law. He reiterated that in a Tuesday tweet that showed the FEC hearing room, and he wrote, “This is where campaign finance violations are tried.”

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #41

        He’s been saying that for years.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          He’s been saying that for years.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #42

          @jon-nyc yes, and he reiterated it. One thing I was not aware of is that Federal Election law violations are not criminal, but a civil matter, in which the burden of proof is lower.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @jon-nyc yes, and he reiterated it. One thing I was not aware of is that Federal Election law violations are not criminal, but a civil matter, in which the burden of proof is lower.

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            @George-K said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

            @jon-nyc yes, and he reiterated it. One thing I was not aware of is that Federal Election law violations are not criminal, but a civil matter, in which the burden of proof is lower.

            If they are a civil matter, then there’s not even a felony to tie it to. Are there civil felonies?

            The Brad

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            • AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
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              Stormy Daniels: Trump doesn't deserve prison for hush money
              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65212196

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                Stormy Daniels: Trump doesn't deserve prison for hush money
                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65212196

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                @Axtremus said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                Stormy Daniels: Trump doesn't deserve prison for hush money
                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65212196

                Good to see Ms. Clifford's legal mind at work.

                his crimes against me are worthy of incarceration

                What???

                I have nothing to hide

                Of course not. You're a porn actress.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  The next hearing is Dec. 4. Judge insists that Trump be there in person, whereas, as a matter of fact, this hearing is all on pre-trial motions. It's unusual for the defendant to be present for such a hearing.

                  The judge (who's daughter works for Biden/Harris) insists that Trump be there.

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                  @George-K said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                  The judge (who's daughter works for Biden/Harris) insists that Trump be there.

                  Do you think that makes him bias?

                  (see recent Judge Thomas story about accepting vacations, etc. from large Republican donor) LOL

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @George-K said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                    The judge (who's daughter works for Biden/Harris) insists that Trump be there.

                    Do you think that makes him bias?

                    (see recent Judge Thomas story about accepting vacations, etc. from large Republican donor) LOL

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #47

                    @taiwan_girl said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                    @George-K said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                    The judge (who's daughter works for Biden/Harris) insists that Trump be there.

                    Do you think that makes him bias?

                    (see recent Judge Thomas story about accepting vacations, etc. from large Republican donor) LOL

                    Well, other than Trump's judge contributed to Biden's campaign, I don't see how he could be biased...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @taiwan_girl said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                      @George-K said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                      The judge (who's daughter works for Biden/Harris) insists that Trump be there.

                      Do you think that makes him bias?

                      (see recent Judge Thomas story about accepting vacations, etc. from large Republican donor) LOL

                      Well, other than Trump's judge contributed to Biden's campaign, I don't see how he could be biased...

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                      @Jolly said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                      @taiwan_girl said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                      @George-K said in 34 Counts of falsifying business records:

                      The judge (who's daughter works for Biden/Harris) insists that Trump be there.

                      Do you think that makes him bias?

                      (see recent Judge Thomas story about accepting vacations, etc. from large Republican donor) LOL

                      Well, other than Trump's judge contributed to Biden's campaign, I don't see how he could be biased...

                      That changes things. For sure, he should not be the judge on this trial then.

                      Appearances and all that!! LOL

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        Only non-witches get due process.

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