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    George K
    wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 00:05 last edited by
    #19

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • J jon-nyc
      8 Apr 2023, 19:19

      Josh Barro brings up the Streisand effect of this move.

      You may have heard that Substack will soon be launching a feature called Notes, which will be a place to “post short-form content and share ideas… including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links.” In other words, the feature will be very similar to Twitter. You will even be able to “restack” another writer’s note.

      The reason you may have heard is probably not that you saw Substack’s Wednesday announcement that Notes is coming. I mean, maybe you did — maybe it came to your inbox because you’re a big fan of Substack qua Substack and so you subscribe to Substack’s substack about Substack, On Substack. But probably not. I’m guessing if you heard, it’s because Substack’s announcement made Elon Musk mad, and he used Twitter to retaliate.

      I suspect that’s true for everyone here.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 00:35 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

      Josh Barro brings up the Streisand effect of this move.

      You may have heard that Substack will soon be launching a feature called Notes, which will be a place to “post short-form content and share ideas… including posts, quotes, comments, images, and links.” In other words, the feature will be very similar to Twitter. You will even be able to “restack” another writer’s note.

      The reason you may have heard is probably not that you saw Substack’s Wednesday announcement that Notes is coming. I mean, maybe you did — maybe it came to your inbox because you’re a big fan of Substack qua Substack and so you subscribe to Substack’s substack about Substack, On Substack. But probably not. I’m guessing if you heard, it’s because Substack’s announcement made Elon Musk mad, and he used Twitter to retaliate.

      I suspect that’s true for everyone here.

      I had literally never heard of Substack until Elon did this.

      I was only joking

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        George K
        wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 00:49 last edited by George K 4 Sept 2023, 00:52
        #21

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 02:16 last edited by
          #22

          Musky seems to be thrashing around a bit here.

          I was only joking

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            Copper
            wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 02:18 last edited by
            #23

            Mr. Musk should buy Substack, immediately.

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            • C Copper
              9 Apr 2023, 02:18

              Mr. Musk should buy Substack, immediately.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 9 Apr 2023, 05:07 last edited by
              #24

              @Copper said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

              Mr. Musk should buy Substack, immediately.

              For $420 a share?

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 10 Apr 2023, 23:23 last edited by
                #25

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J jon-nyc
                  10 Apr 2023, 23:23

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 10 Apr 2023, 23:53 last edited by
                  #26

                  @jon-nyc said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                  Tweet’s gone?

                  The Brad

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 00:00 last edited by
                    #27

                    Interesting.

                    Musk had receipts where Taibbi said he was a substack employee. Musk said “correct your article”.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      George K
                      wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 12:48 last edited by
                      #28

                      Jesus...

                      https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/10/after-matt-taibbi-leaves-twitter-elon-musk-shadow-bans-all-of-taibbis-tweets-including-the-twitter-files/

                      =-=-=-=-=-

                      After Matt Taibbi Leaves Twitter, Elon Musk ‘Shadow Bans’ All Of Taibbi’s Tweets, Including The Twitter Files
                      from the a-show-in-three-acts dept

                      Mon, Apr 10th 2023 09:15am - Mike Masnick
                      The refrain to remember with Twitter under Elon Musk: it can always get dumber.

                      Quick(ish) recap:

                      On Thursday, Musk’s original hand-picked Twitter Files scribe, Matt Taibbi, went on Mehdi Hasan’s show (which Taibbi explicitly demanded from Hasan, after Hasan asked about Taibbi’s opinions on Musk blocking accounts for Modi in India). The interview did not go well for Taibbi in the same manner that finding an iceberg did not go well for the Titanic.

                      One segment of the absolutely brutal interview involves Hasan asking Taibbi the very question that Taibbi had said he wanted to come on the show to answer: what was his opinion of Musk blocking Twitter accounts in India, including those of journalists and activists, that were critical of the Modi government? Hasan notes that Taibbi has talked up how he believes Musk is supporting free speech, and asked Taibbi if he’d like to criticize the blocking of journalists.

                      Taibbi refused to do so, and claimed he doesn’t really know about the story, even though it was the very story that Hasan initially tweeted about that resulted in Taibbi saying he’d tell Hasan his opinion on the story if he was invited on the show. It was, well, embarrassing to watch Taibbi squirm as he knew he couldn’t say anything critical about Musk. He already saw how the second Twitter Files scribe, Bari Weiss, was ex-communicated from the Church of Musk for criticizing Musk’s banning of journalists....

                      Again, this shouldn’t be a surprise, even though the irony is super thick. Early Twitter Files revealed that Twitter had long used visibility filtering to limit the spread of certain accounts. Musk screamed about how this was horrible shadowbanning… but then proceeded to use those tools to suppress speech of people he disliked. And now he’s using the tool, at max power, to hide Taibbi and the very files that we were (falsely) told “exposed” how old Twitter shadow banned people.

                      This is way more ironic than the Alanis song.

                      So, yes, we went from Taibbi praising Elon Musk for supporting free speech and supposedly helping to expose the evil shadowbanning of the old regime, and refusing to criticize Musk on anything, to Taibbi leaving Twitter, and Musk not just unfollowing him but shadowbanning him and all his Twitter Files.

                      In about 48 hours.

                      Absolutely incredible.

                      Just a stunning show of leopard face eating.

                      Not much happened then on Sunday, though Twitter first added a redirect on any searches for “substack” to “newsletters” (what?) and then quietly stopped throttling links to Substack, though no explanation was given. And as far as I can tell, Taibbi’s account is still “max deboosted.”

                      Anyway, again, to be clear: Elon Musk is perfectly within his rights to be as arbitrary and capricious as he wants to be with his own site. But can people please stop pretending his actions have literally anything to do with “free speech”?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 13:11 last edited by
                        #29

                        @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                        Jesus...

                        This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                        I was only joking

                        A R 2 Replies Last reply 11 Apr 2023, 13:23
                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          11 Apr 2023, 13:11

                          @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                          Jesus...

                          This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 13:23 last edited by
                          #30

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                          @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                          Jesus...

                          This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                          Still doing better than the initial assholes who created the platform.

                          Please love yourself.

                          D 1 Reply Last reply 11 Apr 2023, 13:34
                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            11 Apr 2023, 13:23

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                            @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                            Jesus...

                            This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                            Still doing better than the initial assholes who created the platform.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 13:34 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Nov 2023, 13:35
                            #31

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                            @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                            Jesus...

                            This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                            Still doing better than the initial assholes who created the platform.

                            Well, they did create the platform and also made it massively popular. So, from a business perspective, no he isn't. He's taken over something that had serious flaws and created massive additional amounts of bad publicity. He's also lectured us all about freedom of speech whilst silencing anybody he didn't like, seemingly on a whim.

                            Don't I remember you singing the praises of Twitter pre-Musk?

                            I was only joking

                            A 1 Reply Last reply 11 Apr 2023, 13:52
                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              11 Apr 2023, 13:11

                              @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                              Jesus...

                              This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 13:35 last edited by
                              #32

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                              @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                              Jesus...

                              This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                              It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                              Elbows up!

                              D 1 Reply Last reply 11 Apr 2023, 13:37
                              • R Renauda
                                11 Apr 2023, 13:35

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                Jesus...

                                This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 13:37 last edited by
                                #33

                                @Renauda said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                Jesus...

                                This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                                God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

                                I was only joking

                                G HoraceH 2 Replies Last reply 11 Apr 2023, 13:40
                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  11 Apr 2023, 13:37

                                  @Renauda said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                  @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                  Jesus...

                                  This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                  It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                                  God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 13:40 last edited by
                                  #34

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                  God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

                                  Well, he already owns the _____________________________________

                                  Insert whatever pisses you off here: ⬆

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    11 Apr 2023, 13:37

                                    @Renauda said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                    @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                    Jesus...

                                    This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                    It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                                    God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 13:41 last edited by
                                    #35

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                    @Renauda said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                    @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                    Jesus...

                                    This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                    It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                                    God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

                                    I can't even remember if I'm supposed to like or hate Elon.

                                    But I do remember that he's said things that would be in support of the fundamental principle of free speech.

                                    I don't remember Soros saying such things.

                                    Education is extremely important.

                                    D 1 Reply Last reply 11 Apr 2023, 14:37
                                    • D Doctor Phibes
                                      11 Apr 2023, 13:34

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                      @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                      Jesus...

                                      This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                      Still doing better than the initial assholes who created the platform.

                                      Well, they did create the platform and also made it massively popular. So, from a business perspective, no he isn't. He's taken over something that had serious flaws and created massive additional amounts of bad publicity. He's also lectured us all about freedom of speech whilst silencing anybody he didn't like, seemingly on a whim.

                                      Don't I remember you singing the praises of Twitter pre-Musk?

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 13:52 last edited by
                                      #36

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                      @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                      Jesus...

                                      This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                      Still doing better than the initial assholes who created the platform.

                                      Well, they did create the platform and also made it massively popular.

                                      A popular platform that rewards antisocial personality disorders, creates kangaroo courts of public opinion that destroy careers, and publicizes home addresses and family photos of people who say the wrong thing to whatever mob you're talking about. Twitter is Community Stasi. So, from a digital hellscape perspective, it's hard to do worse.

                                      He's also lectured us all about freedom of speech whilst silencing anybody he didn't like, seemingly on a whim.

                                      Oh come on, only nutters actually believed his nonsesnse. I'm just glad he's keeping the dumpster fire going. Maybe it'll all burn down.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace
                                        11 Apr 2023, 13:41

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        @Renauda said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        Jesus...

                                        This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                        It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                                        God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

                                        I can't even remember if I'm supposed to like or hate Elon.

                                        But I do remember that he's said things that would be in support of the fundamental principle of free speech.

                                        I don't remember Soros saying such things.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 14:37 last edited by
                                        #37

                                        @Horace said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        @Renauda said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                        Jesus...

                                        This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                        It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                                        God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

                                        I can't even remember if I'm supposed to like or hate Elon.

                                        But I do remember that he's said things that would be in support of the fundamental principle of free speech.

                                        Whilst investing heavily in China, avoiding criticising their despotic regime, and banning people who he doesn't like on Twitter.

                                        Talk is cheap.

                                        I don't remember Soros saying such things.

                                        https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/publications/how-open-society-foundations-are-defending-free-speech-hungary

                                        I was only joking

                                        HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply 11 Apr 2023, 14:41
                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          11 Apr 2023, 14:37

                                          @Horace said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @Renauda said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          Jesus...

                                          This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                          It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                                          God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

                                          I can't even remember if I'm supposed to like or hate Elon.

                                          But I do remember that he's said things that would be in support of the fundamental principle of free speech.

                                          Whilst investing heavily in China, avoiding criticising their despotic regime, and banning people who he doesn't like on Twitter.

                                          Talk is cheap.

                                          I don't remember Soros saying such things.

                                          https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/publications/how-open-society-foundations-are-defending-free-speech-hungary

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 11 Apr 2023, 14:41 last edited by
                                          #38

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @Horace said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @Renauda said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          @George-K said in Taibbi leaves Twitter:

                                          Jesus...

                                          This is hilarious. Elon doesn't know how to manage this at all, it's complete chaos.

                                          It’s comforting to know that Musk was born in a foreign country to non American parents.

                                          God, imagine the outcry if George Soros bought Twitter. It would be wonderful.

                                          I can't even remember if I'm supposed to like or hate Elon.

                                          But I do remember that he's said things that would be in support of the fundamental principle of free speech.

                                          Whilst investing heavily in China, avoiding criticising their despotic regime, and banning people who he doesn't like on Twitter.

                                          Talk is cheap.

                                          I don't remember Soros saying such things.

                                          https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/publications/how-open-society-foundations-are-defending-free-speech-hungary

                                          Sorry I can't. What do the words at that link mean to you?

                                          Please put something into your own words.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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