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Six Pages at Once

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Link to video

    Interesting.

    I've found that there are so many editions of music that are more than 6 pages long, but those are the really good Henle (and other) editions. Those are great for learning the music.

    However, as someone who has difficulty memorizing music, and just needs a little memory nudge, there are editions which are "condensed" that would be perfect for this item.

    Thoughts?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      Link to video

      Interesting.

      I've found that there are so many editions of music that are more than 6 pages long, but those are the really good Henle (and other) editions. Those are great for learning the music.

      However, as someone who has difficulty memorizing music, and just needs a little memory nudge, there are editions which are "condensed" that would be perfect for this item.

      Thoughts?

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      @George-K said in Six Pages at Once:

      Thoughts?

      The hi-tech solution would be to train up an AI model that can “turn the pages” (of scanned or digitized sheet music) for the musician in real time much like (or better than) a trained human page turner would. The AI turner will understand markings for repeats, “da capo,” “D.S. al fine”, etc. The AI will “listen” through a microphone so it knows where you are in the sheet music. The AI may even dynamically repaginate the sheet music for optimal reading.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @George-K said in Six Pages at Once:

        Thoughts?

        The hi-tech solution would be to train up an AI model that can “turn the pages” (of scanned or digitized sheet music) for the musician in real time much like (or better than) a trained human page turner would. The AI turner will understand markings for repeats, “da capo,” “D.S. al fine”, etc. The AI will “listen” through a microphone so it knows where you are in the sheet music. The AI may even dynamically repaginate the sheet music for optimal reading.

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        @Axtremus yes. But...

        I invested in a manual page-turner for my iPad quite a while ago. As I've said, I found the anticipation of having to plan turning the page with a pedal or a facial gesture to be distracting.

        I'm sure that your idea of having an AI "hear" what you're playing and turn the page at the appropriate moment would be great.

        Perhaps ChatGPT has some thoughts.

        But, what do you think of this low-tech solution?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Axtremus yes. But...

          I invested in a manual page-turner for my iPad quite a while ago. As I've said, I found the anticipation of having to plan turning the page with a pedal or a facial gesture to be distracting.

          I'm sure that your idea of having an AI "hear" what you're playing and turn the page at the appropriate moment would be great.

          Perhaps ChatGPT has some thoughts.

          But, what do you think of this low-tech solution?

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          @George-K said in Six Pages at Once:

          But, what do you think of this low-tech solution?

          Line up six pages of sheet music on your music stand, assume your usual piano playing position, wear whatever eye glasses or contacts as you normally would for piano playing, then check if you can read the left most and right most pages with sufficient legibility. If you can read the left most and right most pages ok, then chances are good that this mechanical six-page solution will work for you.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @George-K said in Six Pages at Once:

            But, what do you think of this low-tech solution?

            Line up six pages of sheet music on your music stand, assume your usual piano playing position, wear whatever eye glasses or contacts as you normally would for piano playing, then check if you can read the left most and right most pages with sufficient legibility. If you can read the left most and right most pages ok, then chances are good that this mechanical six-page solution will work for you.

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            @Axtremus said in Six Pages at Once:

            Line up six pages of sheet music on your music stand

            Is your music desk 48 inches wide (6 pages at 8.25 inch each)?

            Mine are not.

            The Bohemia is 38" and the Roland is 28".

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

            LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
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              The photo above shows six "letter" sized pages of sheet music lined up across the music stand atop my piano.

              Put something (e.g. tall glasses) behind the left most and right most pages to stand them up, then put a ruler or pencil or anything horizontal in front at the bottom to keep them from sliding off. They don't have to line up perfectly. Just need to line up long enough for you to test your eyesights against them for legibility.

              Reading music further away (left most and right most pages) was certainly easier when I was younger. It's harder now.

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              • George KG George K

                @Axtremus said in Six Pages at Once:

                Line up six pages of sheet music on your music stand

                Is your music desk 48 inches wide (6 pages at 8.25 inch each)?

                Mine are not.

                The Bohemia is 38" and the Roland is 28".

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                LuFins Dad
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                @George-K said in Six Pages at Once:

                @Axtremus said in Six Pages at Once:

                Line up six pages of sheet music on your music stand

                Is your music desk 48 inches wide (6 pages at 8.25 inch each)?

                Mine are not.

                The Bohemia is 38" and the Roland is 28".

                I sell a large number of institutional uprights to private homes over this issue.

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                Yes, the U1 has a better touch and tone, but if you are getting to that point, then you need a grand piano. The practical benefits of the P22 far outweigh the performance feature… 1) the music desk on a U1 is one of those flip down jobs. If you play using hymnals or thicker books, it’s a no go. Writing in the music is more difficult, and you can’t have more than 3-4 pages of sheet music across it…

                The Brad

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