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    Jolly
    wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 23:00 last edited by Jolly
    #73

    Talked with a guy I know in the gun biz, who shoots some competition. I was impressed with the Engelbert handled his weapon. He agreed, but he knew more than I did. He talked about the Vortex 1-6 on the officer's AR not being department issue, but how well he handled the site and how the officer worked the blind corners and rooms.

    He said that speaks to two things...

    1. Engelbert took the money and time to buy a good site ( the Vortex is not department issue)and get really good with it, along with superior gun handling. Especially under high stress.
    2. Even though he shoots an AR in competition, he said there's no way he could have kept up with the officer, as fast as he was scanning and clearing rooms.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      29 Mar 2023, 23:00

      Talked with a guy I know in the gun biz, who shoots some competition. I was impressed with the Engelbert handled his weapon. He agreed, but he knew more than I did. He talked about the Vortex 1-6 on the officer's AR not being department issue, but how well he handled the site and how the officer worked the blind corners and rooms.

      He said that speaks to two things...

      1. Engelbert took the money and time to buy a good site ( the Vortex is not department issue)and get really good with it, along with superior gun handling. Especially under high stress.
      2. Even though he shoots an AR in competition, he said there's no way he could have kept up with the officer, as fast as he was scanning and clearing rooms.
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      George K
      wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 23:15 last edited by
      #74

      @Jolly you know, when you see movies of military personnel clearing a room, you think "Wow, those guys know their shit."

      Of course, real life is never, ever like the movies.

      Except here.

      That's what came to my mind as I watched.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Copper
        wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 01:55 last edited by
        #75

        I saw this on Facebook, and right away thought, no-way, this can't be true.

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        So I googled around and saw this

        https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/nashville-school-shooting-audrey-hale-tennessee-us-children-joe-biden-cctv-video-b1070359.html

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        And this
        https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-nashville-shooting-surveillance-footage-20230328-ig37y4gv2ja3tdhwpoyvun7j2m-story.html

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        What am I missing?

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          George K
          wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 12:06 last edited by
          #76

          https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-nashville-shooters-body-wearing-different-shoes-1791148

          Although in CCTV footage the shoes Hale was wearing appear monochromatic, it is an effect caused by the quality of the camera and its processing. This limits the color depth available to accurately capture the scene in full detail. The bodycam footage partly suffers the same issue but provides full-color detail as the officer moves the camera's focus to the shoe.

          Additionally, the distinct "Vans Off The Wall" logo on the rear of the shooter's footwear, a kitemark of the brand's shoes, is visible in the CCTV footage and the bodycam footage.

          Alex Jones wept.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            30 Mar 2023, 12:06

            https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-nashville-shooters-body-wearing-different-shoes-1791148

            Although in CCTV footage the shoes Hale was wearing appear monochromatic, it is an effect caused by the quality of the camera and its processing. This limits the color depth available to accurately capture the scene in full detail. The bodycam footage partly suffers the same issue but provides full-color detail as the officer moves the camera's focus to the shoe.

            Additionally, the distinct "Vans Off The Wall" logo on the rear of the shooter's footwear, a kitemark of the brand's shoes, is visible in the CCTV footage and the bodycam footage.

            Alex Jones wept.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 12:08 last edited by
            #77

            @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

            https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-nashville-shooters-body-wearing-different-shoes-1791148

            Although in CCTV footage the shoes Hale was wearing appear monochromatic, it is an effect caused by the quality of the camera and its processing. This limits the color depth available to accurately capture the scene in full detail. The bodycam footage partly suffers the same issue but provides full-color detail as the officer moves the camera's focus to the shoe.

            Additionally, the distinct "Vans Off The Wall" logo on the rear of the shooter's footwear, a kitemark of the brand's shoes, is visible in the CCTV footage and the bodycam footage.

            Alex Jones wept.

            I figured it was something to that effect

            The Brad

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              Jolly
              wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 13:13 last edited by
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              NASHVILLE, Tenn.—The Nashville Christian school shooter “clearly” attempted to enter classrooms that were barricaded, the man who led a school shooting training with teachers and staff at The Covenant School last year told The Epoch Times on Wednesday.

              Brink Filder is president of Defend Systems, a Nashville active shooter training company that contracted with the school for training sessions. He said on Wednesday he had been at the school all day and did a walkthrough with homicide detectives to answer some questions and gain insight.

              “[The shooter] did not get into a single room—and that was not for lack of effort,” he said. “The only victims she got to were in open areas. So, they did exactly what they needed to do in that moment without hesitation and they are responsible for getting those children that survived back to their families.”

              Covenant Trained for a Moment That Came

              “This one hits home because they are a client of ours,” he said. “We study these events for a living. This one is vastly different—because I knew these people—so we’re just trying to take it all in.”

              In 2022, Defend Systems held a “pretty intense” training with school staff. Filder and his staff conducted an active shooter mitigation course at the school in January 2022 and in March 2022 did a medical intervention session with them.

              For more: https://www.theepochtimes.com/shooter-tried-to-enter-barricaded-classrooms-at-nashville-christian-school_5159434.html

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • G George K
                30 Mar 2023, 12:06

                https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-nashville-shooters-body-wearing-different-shoes-1791148

                Although in CCTV footage the shoes Hale was wearing appear monochromatic, it is an effect caused by the quality of the camera and its processing. This limits the color depth available to accurately capture the scene in full detail. The bodycam footage partly suffers the same issue but provides full-color detail as the officer moves the camera's focus to the shoe.

                Additionally, the distinct "Vans Off The Wall" logo on the rear of the shooter's footwear, a kitemark of the brand's shoes, is visible in the CCTV footage and the bodycam footage.

                Alex Jones wept.

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                Copper
                wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 16:00 last edited by
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                @George-K said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                limits the color depth available to accurately capture the scene in full detail.

                This isn't like the magic bullet on the grassy knoll, is it?

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 17:50 last edited by
                  #80

                  She was attending counseling with the father of one of the children killed…

                  https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/audrey-hale-counseled-by-pastor-whose-daughter-she-killed/

                  The Brad

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 17:57 last edited by
                    #81

                    If y'all don't believe in Evil, you ought to.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      30 Mar 2023, 17:50

                      She was attending counseling with the father of one of the children killed…

                      https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/audrey-hale-counseled-by-pastor-whose-daughter-she-killed/

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 20:49 last edited by
                      #82

                      @LuFins-Dad

                      That headline currently reads “Pastor walks back claim Audrey Hale was undergoing counseling with man whose daughter she killed”

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        30 Mar 2023, 20:49

                        @LuFins-Dad

                        That headline currently reads “Pastor walks back claim Audrey Hale was undergoing counseling with man whose daughter she killed”

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 20:56 last edited by
                        #83

                        @jon-nyc

                        What'dya expect? It's the NY Post.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          30 Mar 2023, 20:49

                          @LuFins-Dad

                          That headline currently reads “Pastor walks back claim Audrey Hale was undergoing counseling with man whose daughter she killed”

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 21:00 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                          @LuFins-Dad

                          That headline currently reads “Pastor walks back claim Audrey Hale was undergoing counseling with man whose daughter she killed”

                          So it does. That’s a helluva mistake…

                          The Brad

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            30 Mar 2023, 21:00

                            @jon-nyc said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                            @LuFins-Dad

                            That headline currently reads “Pastor walks back claim Audrey Hale was undergoing counseling with man whose daughter she killed”

                            So it does. That’s a helluva mistake…

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                            George K
                            wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 21:07 last edited by
                            #85

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                            That’s a helluva mistake…

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              30 Mar 2023, 20:56

                              @jon-nyc

                              What'dya expect? It's the NY Post.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 22:59 last edited by
                              #86

                              @Catseye3 said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                              @jon-nyc

                              What'dya expect? It's the NY Post.

                              Thank God it wasn't the Times. They probably think the assault weapon pulled its own trigger.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                30 Mar 2023, 22:59

                                @Catseye3 said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                @jon-nyc

                                What'dya expect? It's the NY Post.

                                Thank God it wasn't the Times. They probably think the assault weapon pulled its own trigger.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 30 Mar 2023, 23:04 last edited by
                                #87

                                @Jolly said in Nashville School Shooting - 6 dead, shooter is a woman:

                                Thank God it wasn't the Times

                                By the way, has The Times returned the Russia Pulitzer?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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