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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #25

    Personally, I think there is a real danger that these guys that are worse than selfie loving doofuses but not as bad as full scale insurrectionists could be radicalized by overly harsh treatment, conditions, and sentences.

    You are legitimizing their concerns and mistrust of the government and in a few years, I think you will see actual domestic terrorists…

    The Brad

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #26

      @LuFins-Dad said in The Other Side:

      You are legitimizing their concerns and mistrust of the government and in a few years, I think you will see actual domestic terrorists…

      Bingo!

      As I've said before, the fastest way to real violence is when people believe their Justice system is rigged or when their elections are fraudulent.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        @jon-nyc Don’t get me wrong, severe lines were crossed and I don’t disagree with appropriate punishments ranging from fines for everybody that crossed the threshold to several years for those that assaulted police, and lots of in between, but if they have been unnecessarily put in solitary confinement for extended periods of time and been abused in other ways, that will have repercussions…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @jon-nyc Don’t get me wrong, severe lines were crossed and I don’t disagree with appropriate punishments ranging from fines for everybody that crossed the threshold to several years for those that assaulted police, and lots of in between, but if they have been unnecessarily put in solitary confinement for extended periods of time and been abused in other ways, that will have repercussions…

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          jon-nyc
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          #28

          @LuFins-Dad

          Something like 20% of prisoners experience solitary confinement at some point in their incarceration. In federal prisons, data from 2022 showed something like 6-7% were placed in solitary at some point during any particular month. It clearly seems overused. I doubt the Jan 6 crew got any special treatment here. Certainly not systematically.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #29

            I think Caldwell was 51 days.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • CopperC Offline
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              #30

              Give me solitude over population any time.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #31

                Don't think so. A Supermax cell has no windows. It's not very big and you only get out one hour per day for exercise...If they let you.

                A lot of folks have trouble living by themselves with no freedom.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Don't think so. A Supermax cell has no windows. It's not very big and you only get out one hour per day for exercise...If they let you.

                  A lot of folks have trouble living by themselves with no freedom.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #32

                  @Jolly said in The Other Side:

                  A lot of folks have trouble living by themselves with no freedom.

                  Maybe don't break into federal government buildings and disrupt a presidential vote, then.

                  (And no I don't think prisoner abuses are justified if that needs repeating.)

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Jolly said in The Other Side:

                    A lot of folks have trouble living by themselves with no freedom.

                    Maybe don't break into federal government buildings and disrupt a presidential vote, then.

                    (And no I don't think prisoner abuses are justified if that needs repeating.)

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #33

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Other Side:

                    @Jolly said in The Other Side:

                    A lot of folks have trouble living by themselves with no freedom.

                    Maybe don't break into federal government buildings and disrupt a presidential vote, then.

                    (And no I don't think prisoner abuses are justified if that needs repeating.)

                    Does a nonviolent crime deserve solitary confinement?

                    Do you think you would do ok in a concrete 9x7 room for two months?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      #34

                      Hey Jolly,
                      Can they request books in solitary, like "Jailbreak for Dummies?"
                      Do they get cable?
                      Decent food, room service?
                      I'm sure solitary sux big time after a few days.

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                        Horace
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                        #35

                        masters of meditation would find it easy and even enlightening. But it's probably not easy to use it as an opportunity to pick up the practice, if you're a beginner.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
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                          #36

                          I've been in solitary. Even at the juvie level it sucks, I assure you. Even for just a weekend. And I had a window.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Hey Jolly,
                            Can they request books in solitary, like "Jailbreak for Dummies?"
                            Do they get cable?
                            Decent food, room service?
                            I'm sure solitary sux big time after a few days.

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                            @Rainman said in The Other Side:

                            Hey Jolly,
                            Can they request books in solitary, like "Jailbreak for Dummies?"
                            Do they get cable?
                            Decent food, room service?
                            I'm sure solitary sux big time after a few days.

                            They can request books. That doesn't mean they get them.

                            Sorry, no tv. No radio.

                            Decent food? You know, I've ate a lot of prison food. Some of it's pretty good. Some of it is very good. Some is very bad. Depends on the prison and even what section of the prison you are in. I've seen lunch consist of a lettuce wrap ( a piece of bologna in a piece of lettuce) with a cookie and a glass of tea, and I've seen lunch consist of white beans with smoked bologna served over rice with cornbread and peach cobbler for dessert. The first was at Jefferson Parish, the latter at Camp J, Angola.

                            Room service? Uh, no.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #38

                              A little bit about Supermax prison...

                              https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-supermax-prison/index.html

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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