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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    What side of the fence do you fall on?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/judge-rules-online-archives-book-service-violated-copyright/ar-AA194Cd9

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Offline
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      As long as they are functioning as an actual library and are lending out only as many copies as they have purchased, I don't see the problem. If they are operating otherwise that changes things.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Offline
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        After reading through, it appears they are not acting as a traditional library.

        "Unlike traditional libraries, it does not acquire books directly through licensing deals with publishers, but through purchases and donations. The archive also includes millions of movies, TV shows, videos, audio recordings and other materials."

        For more on how traditional libraries work, this link.

        https://www2.societyofauthors.org/where-we-stand/public-lending-right-plr/

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Aqua Letifer
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          Somewhere in the middle.

          A lot of deceased authors have working trusts whose lawyers have ensured the work they claim to protect will die. This is stupid.

          On the other hand, we need to get away from the idea that internet = free.

          In this case, it'd depend for me on how these digital editions were loaned out. I don't see any problem with Adobe Digital Editions, for example. If they were using that or similar to fix the number of copies, that would change things.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            Somewhere in the middle.

            A lot of deceased authors have working trusts whose lawyers have ensured the work they claim to protect will die. This is stupid.

            On the other hand, we need to get away from the idea that internet = free.

            In this case, it'd depend for me on how these digital editions were loaned out. I don't see any problem with Adobe Digital Editions, for example. If they were using that or similar to fix the number of copies, that would change things.

            JollyJ Offline
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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Aqua Bait:

            Somewhere in the middle.

            A lot of deceased authors have working trusts whose lawyers have ensured the work they claim to protect will die. This is stupid.

            On the other hand, we need to get away from the idea that internet = free.

            In this case, it'd depend for me on how these digital editions were loaned out. I don't see any problem with Adobe Digital Editions, for example. If they were using that or similar to fix the number of copies, that would change things.

            Can't you set a time limit on ADE? Say, two weeks or so?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Aqua Bait:

              Somewhere in the middle.

              A lot of deceased authors have working trusts whose lawyers have ensured the work they claim to protect will die. This is stupid.

              On the other hand, we need to get away from the idea that internet = free.

              In this case, it'd depend for me on how these digital editions were loaned out. I don't see any problem with Adobe Digital Editions, for example. If they were using that or similar to fix the number of copies, that would change things.

              Can't you set a time limit on ADE? Say, two weeks or so?

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              @Jolly said in Aqua Bait:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Aqua Bait:

              Somewhere in the middle.

              A lot of deceased authors have working trusts whose lawyers have ensured the work they claim to protect will die. This is stupid.

              On the other hand, we need to get away from the idea that internet = free.

              In this case, it'd depend for me on how these digital editions were loaned out. I don't see any problem with Adobe Digital Editions, for example. If they were using that or similar to fix the number of copies, that would change things.

              Can't you set a time limit on ADE? Say, two weeks or so?

              You can indeed; there's even an option to allow and limit the number of renewals.

              Please love yourself.

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