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  • George KG George K

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    Doctor Phibes
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    I haven’t watched any of these, but the whole Star Trek concept seems very dated to me. The idea of large immaculate space ships spreading Truth, Justice and The American Way throughout the galaxy is very much yesterday’s science fiction.

    Which in some ways is a shame. I used to love the old Star Trek and the first few movies were great

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      I haven’t watched any of these, but the whole Star Trek concept seems very dated to me. The idea of large immaculate space ships spreading Truth, Justice and The American Way throughout the galaxy is very much yesterday’s science fiction.

      Which in some ways is a shame. I used to love the old Star Trek and the first few movies were great

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      George K
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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Picard 3:

      the whole Star Trek concept seems very dated to me

      Indeed. I really wanted to like "Discovery," but it got just too absurd, preachy and woke for me. Granted, Anson Mount was a bit of freshness that I liked in the role of Pike.

      Picard was absurd after the first 4 episodes and, somehow I slogged through the season. It got boring and contrived.

      I've heard that DS9 was the best of the spinoffs, but I never watched it, being a B5 fan.

      I'll pass on this.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        It's good to hear that Picard is going away. It felt like they were just looking for an excuse to use the glow from Patrick Stewart to build an audience - but the scripts were weak.

        I like the Empress Georgiou played by Michelle Yeoh. Still, one actor can't make up for the quality of the scripts.

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        • George KG George K

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Picard 3:

          the whole Star Trek concept seems very dated to me

          Indeed. I really wanted to like "Discovery," but it got just too absurd, preachy and woke for me. Granted, Anson Mount was a bit of freshness that I liked in the role of Pike.

          Picard was absurd after the first 4 episodes and, somehow I slogged through the season. It got boring and contrived.

          I've heard that DS9 was the best of the spinoffs, but I never watched it, being a B5 fan.

          I'll pass on this.

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          @George-K said in Picard 3:

          I've heard that DS9 was the best of the spinoffs, but I never watched it, being a B5 fan.

          It was ok, but got quite tiresome, as they all seem to. It wasn't nearly as good as B5.

          The guy who played Benjamin Sisko had a tendency at times to over-act to an almost comical degree. Of course, he's certainly not the first Star Fleet Captain to do that.

          I was only joking

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          • kluursK kluurs

            It's good to hear that Picard is going away. It felt like they were just looking for an excuse to use the glow from Patrick Stewart to build an audience - but the scripts were weak.

            I like the Empress Georgiou played by Michelle Yeoh. Still, one actor can't make up for the quality of the scripts.

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            @kluurs said in Picard 3:

            It's good to hear that Picard is going away. It felt like they were just looking for an excuse to use the glow from Patrick Stewart to build an audience - but the scripts were weak.

            I like the Empress Georgiou played by Michelle Yeoh. Still, one actor can't make up for the quality of the scripts.

            And even that concept was a retread from an original Star Trek episode - the parallel universe with evil Star Fleet.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              #11

              From Space.com: "One of the greatest science-fiction shows of all time is coming back next year.

              A secretive new Babylon 5 project featuring all surviving members of the show's original main cast, its creator J. Michael Straczynski has revealed.

              Straczynski, better known as 'JMS' to his fans, took to Twitter to casually drop information about the project, saying that it has already been produced and will debut at the 2023 San Diego Comic Con. "It's the closest thing to the original B5 in tone of anything we've done since. As if no time has passed at all," he wrote on Twitter.

              This new project is a separate project to The CW's reboot of Babylon 5, which is still stuck in development hell (more on that shortly). For now, it remains a closely guarded secret, and there have been precious few clues as to its nature.

              Moar: https://www.space.com/babylon-5-return-original-cast

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                From Space.com: "One of the greatest science-fiction shows of all time is coming back next year.

                A secretive new Babylon 5 project featuring all surviving members of the show's original main cast, its creator J. Michael Straczynski has revealed.

                Straczynski, better known as 'JMS' to his fans, took to Twitter to casually drop information about the project, saying that it has already been produced and will debut at the 2023 San Diego Comic Con. "It's the closest thing to the original B5 in tone of anything we've done since. As if no time has passed at all," he wrote on Twitter.

                This new project is a separate project to The CW's reboot of Babylon 5, which is still stuck in development hell (more on that shortly). For now, it remains a closely guarded secret, and there have been precious few clues as to its nature.

                Moar: https://www.space.com/babylon-5-return-original-cast

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                George K
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                @Catseye3 this is an older story. B5 remains in limbo as of last week. The CW has undergone ownership/management changes.

                Last week, JMS tweeted something to the effect of, "It's not dead...yet. Things can stay in limbo for a long time. Since I haven't heard it's not moving forward, I assume it still is."

                https://www.patreon.com/posts/78392748?pr=true

                Every year, networks and streamers develop tons of pilot scripts, and a smaller parcel of produced pilots, only a small fraction of which cross the finish line into being ordered as series. For those that don’t get ordered, this is what happens:

                The network or streamer calls the writer/producer, or that person’s agent, and tells them. I’ve gotten that call plenty of times over the years.

                That call has not come.

                Networks and streamers don’t just make a decision not to pick something up, and then not tell anyone. I’ve been in the television business for longer than there have been clouds, and I’ve never seen that happen. I’ve never even heard of it happening. If they pick up the project, they call; if they don’t pick up the project, they call. Again, they’re not shy about making that call: it gets done every day, every week, every month, every year.

                It’s real simple: “Joe, listen, we loved the script but we couldn’t make the deal/money/schedule work, so we’re going to have to pass, but please be sure to bring us something else next development cycle.” Click, disconnect, move on. Easy-peasy, no harm, no foul, nature of the biz.

                And my very next act, within the minute, would be to post the information to everyone reading this, because that’s also a part of the process.

                But again: that call has not come. Not to me, my agent, or my attorney. Not to nobody.

                Does this mean B5 is going to happen? No.

                Does this mean it’s not going to happen? No.

                ALL it means is that there are still discussions going on far above my pay grade, and that there’s an agenda or a purpose that I’m not privy to.

                Could that no-go call come tomorrow? Sure, and that would be ridiculously sad.

                Could the pickup call come tomorrow? Sure, and that would be ridiculously great.

                But until then, Babylon 5 is Schrodinger’s TV show, neither alive nor dead, until somebody, somewhere, opens the box, looks inside to tell the tale, and calls me or my agent to say what they saw.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
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                  #13

                  Link to video

                  Just watch the first 10 minutes - he makes some interesting points regarding how bad the production, acting, writing, etc are.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
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                    It's worse than that.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/captain-kirk-returns-to-star-trek-in-the-worst-way/ar-AA18ZMlO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d88c726fd7414444b7248ffeafcdc293&ei=14

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      George K
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                      Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick.

                      What the actual hell is this?

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Jolly
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                        #16

                        It's a Klingon and his band of merry men...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          George K
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                          I really, really wanted to like this.

                          At the end of Season 1, I thought, "Well, maybe it'll get better."

                          I haven't watched Season 2, but the reviews were (cough) less than favorable.

                          Being the naive person I am, I thought I could just jump into season 3 and pick up because...why not.

                          Not gonna waste my time.

                          It's sad to see how this franchise has gone into the path of Star Wars crapper.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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