Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop
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Kind of a sad story about how a homeless camp effects a nearby sandwich shop.
As with most large scale problems, there are no easy answers.
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The answers are easy, the execution is hard
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@Jolly said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
The answers are easy, the execution is hard
What are the answers?
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90% of the street people have mental health issues and most of those have recreational drug problems. The other 10% are vagrants and need to be moved on.
Some will benefit from temporary institutionalization, some will benefit from treatment and halfway houses and some need to be in an institution for the rest of their lives.
This takes money and commitment.
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90% of the street people have mental health issues and most of those have recreational drug problems. The other 10% are vagrants and need to be moved on.
Some will benefit from temporary institutionalization, some will benefit from treatment and halfway houses and some need to be in an institution for the rest of their lives.
This takes money and commitment.
@Jolly said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
90% of the street people have mental health issues and most of those have recreational drug problems. The other 10% are vagrants and need to be moved on.
Some will benefit from temporary institutionalization, some will benefit from treatment and halfway houses and some need to be in an institution for the rest of their lives.
This takes money and commitment.
I agree with your analysis.
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@Jolly said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
90% of the street people have mental health issues and most of those have recreational drug problems. The other 10% are vagrants and need to be moved on.
Some will benefit from temporary institutionalization, some will benefit from treatment and halfway houses and some need to be in an institution for the rest of their lives.
This takes money and commitment.
I agree with your analysis.
@taiwan_girl said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
I agree with your analysis.
OK...let's expand the discussion.
Do other nations have a similar
problemissue? Are there homeless in Indonesia, Moscow, Berlin, or Cape Town?If not, why not? Underreporting or a smaller problem?
If so, how is it being dealt with?
Is the US unique with this problem?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@taiwan_girl said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
I agree with your analysis.
OK...let's expand the discussion.
Do other nations have a similar
problemissue? Are there homeless in Indonesia, Moscow, Berlin, or Cape Town?If not, why not? Underreporting or a smaller problem?
If so, how is it being dealt with?
Is the US unique with this problem?
@George-K said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
@taiwan_girl said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
I agree with your analysis.
OK...let's expand the discussion.
Do other nations have a similar
problemissue? Are there homeless in Indonesia, Moscow, Berlin, or Cape Town?If not, why not? Underreporting or a smaller problem?
If so, how is it being dealt with?
Is the US unique with this problem?
Let's take two countries at random - the US and UK.
According to Wiki the UK has a total homeless population of 54.4 per 10K of population, compared to the US, which has 17.5. However, the UK has an 'unsheltered' homeless pop. of 0.9 per 10K, compared to 7.0 in the US.
So, I'm guessing it's not particularly straightforward.
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@George-K said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
@taiwan_girl said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
I agree with your analysis.
OK...let's expand the discussion.
Do other nations have a similar
problemissue? Are there homeless in Indonesia, Moscow, Berlin, or Cape Town?If not, why not? Underreporting or a smaller problem?
If so, how is it being dealt with?
Is the US unique with this problem?
Let's take two countries at random - the US and UK.
According to Wiki the UK has a total homeless population of 54.4 per 10K of population, compared to the US, which has 17.5. However, the UK has an 'unsheltered' homeless pop. of 0.9 per 10K, compared to 7.0 in the US.
So, I'm guessing it's not particularly straightforward.
@Doctor-Phibes what's the difference between "homeless" and "unsheltered?"
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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In Asia (especially north Asia), there was a historical trend that family took care of people, so that there was not that much homelessness. But with the population pyramid going upside down, it is not so strong anymore so you see a lot more homeless than I ever saw before in places like Taiwan and Japan.
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In Asia (especially north Asia), there was a historical trend that family took care of people, so that there was not that much homelessness. But with the population pyramid going upside down, it is not so strong anymore so you see a lot more homeless than I ever saw before in places like Taiwan and Japan.
@taiwan_girl said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
In Asia (especially north Asia), there was a historical trend that family took care of people, so that there was not that much homelessness. But with the population pyramid going upside down, it is not so strong anymore so you see a lot more homeless than I ever saw before in places like Taiwan and Japan.
Can't tell you how much I appreciate your "world perspective" on issues. It really helps, or at least tries, to reset my parochial worldview.
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@Doctor-Phibes what's the difference between "homeless" and "unsheltered?"
@George-K said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
@Doctor-Phibes what's the difference between "homeless" and "unsheltered?"
I think unsheltered essentially means living on the street, whereas 'homeless' includes people living in shelters, with friends, etc.
To answer your original question, there are plenty of homeless in the UK. I remember the number increased dramatically in the 1980's, and got progressively worse. From just random visits to certain cities in the US, I get the feeling it's worse here.
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@taiwan_girl said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
I agree with your analysis.
OK...let's expand the discussion.
Do other nations have a similar
problemissue? Are there homeless in Indonesia, Moscow, Berlin, or Cape Town?If not, why not? Underreporting or a smaller problem?
If so, how is it being dealt with?
Is the US unique with this problem?
@George-K said in Homeless Camp and the Sandwich Shop:
Is the US unique with this problem?
What problem?
The USA is #56, UK #36, Japan #85
Syria #1 by a lot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_homeless_population
