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Sound authoritarian to me

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  • George KG Offline
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    I don't know anything about French law, but this seems almost as bad as cancelling student debt unconstitutional to me.

    Macron Pushes French Pension Bill Through Without Full Vote

    President Emmanuel Macron, apparently short of parliamentary support for his contentious proposal to increase the retirement age by two years, has decided to push the legislation through without a vote in the National Assembly, a decision certain to inflame an already tense confrontation over the measure in France.

    The decision prompted raucous protests on Thursday inside the assembly chamber, where opposition lawmakers sang the French national anthem and banged on their desks, drowning out a speech by the prime minister, a Macron ally. The noisy session came after weeks of protests and strikes against Mr. Macron’s proposal that have disrupted public transportation, left garbage piling up and sparked impassioned debate over the future of the country’s cherished social protection system.

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      Not sure how the French government works, but yeah, that sounds bad.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        OK, here's how it works. Sounds very much like the National Assembly hasn't got the guts to vote for it, and they want to be able to say they didn't while also not issuing a no-confidence vote. Des politiciens de merde de poulet!

        The decision to use Article 49.3 of the French Constitution, which enables a government to push a bill through the National Assembly without a vote, gives opposition lawmakers 24 hours to file a no-confidence motion against the government, although it is rare for such motions to succeed. The article has been enshrined in law since 1958, but over the past decade it has increasingly been seen as an undemocratic tool used by governments to strong-arm lawmakers.

        Mr. Macron says France’s pension system is in “an increasingly precarious state” because retirees are living longer and their numbers are growing faster than those of today’s workers, whose payroll taxes finance the system. But his plan has angered a society that reveres retirement and a generous balance between work and leisure. In polls, roughly two-thirds of French people say they disapprove of the plan.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          Not sure how the French government works, but yeah, that sounds bad.

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          @Mik said in Sound authoritarian to me:

          Not sure how the French government works,

          Jolly kinda does. 😁

          Please love yourself.

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          • George KG George K

            I don't know anything about French law, but this seems almost as bad as cancelling student debt unconstitutional to me.

            Macron Pushes French Pension Bill Through Without Full Vote

            President Emmanuel Macron, apparently short of parliamentary support for his contentious proposal to increase the retirement age by two years, has decided to push the legislation through without a vote in the National Assembly, a decision certain to inflame an already tense confrontation over the measure in France.

            The decision prompted raucous protests on Thursday inside the assembly chamber, where opposition lawmakers sang the French national anthem and banged on their desks, drowning out a speech by the prime minister, a Macron ally. The noisy session came after weeks of protests and strikes against Mr. Macron’s proposal that have disrupted public transportation, left garbage piling up and sparked impassioned debate over the future of the country’s cherished social protection system.

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            @George-K

            ….sounds unconditional to me.

            Apparently it is constitutional:

            https://www.france24.com/en/video/20230317-the-49-3-how-did-france-s-government-impose-its-pension-reform

            Elbows up!

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