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No more gas appliances

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  • CopperC Offline
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    How long before they deny that they ever proposed such a dumb idea?

    San Francisco latest Dem city to crack down on gas appliances

    Regulators characterized the ban as a 'groundbreaking regulation'

    San Francisco regulators moved forward with regulations banning future sales of certain natural gas-powered appliances as part of the Democrat-led city's climate agenda.

    The Bay Area Air Quality Management District, which oversees air pollution and emissions regulations for the nine counties surrounding San Francisco, greenlighted amendments to regulations Wednesday evening related to eliminating nitrogen oxide emissions from natural gas furnaces and water heaters in the region. The action requires all commercial and residential furnaces and water heaters to be electric by 2027.

    "The 1.8 million water heaters and furnaces in the Bay Area significantly impact our air quality, resulting in dozens of early deaths and a wide range of health impacts, particularly in communities of color," Dr. Philip Fine, the executive officer of the Air District, said Wednesday in a statement.

    "This groundbreaking regulation will phase out the most polluting appliances in homes and businesses to protect Bay Area residents from the harmful air pollution they cause."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-latest-dem-city-crack-down-gas-appliances

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Without gas ovens, whatever will they stick their heads in?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • MikM Offline
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        This is a green wet dream. To generate enough electricity to replace gas heat would require massive investments in infrastructure, far beyond the recent bill.

        We had a heat pump when we moved into this house 30 years ago. I was one of the residents of our street that lobbied to get natural gas, and I switched over as soon as possible. A heat pump is simply inadequate to provide heat in this climate. It works pretty well further south, but here we froze.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          This is a green wet dream. To generate enough electricity to replace gas heat would require massive investments in infrastructure, far beyond the recent bill.

          We had a heat pump when we moved into this house 30 years ago. I was one of the residents of our street that lobbied to get natural gas, and I switched over as soon as possible. A heat pump is simply inadequate to provide heat in this climate. It works pretty well further south, but here we froze.

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          @Mik said in No more gas appliances:

          This is a green wet dream. To generate enough electricity to replace gas heat would require massive investments in infrastructure, far beyond the recent bill.

          We had a heat pump when we moved into this house 30 years ago. I was one of the residents of our street that lobbied to get natural gas, and I switched over as soon as possible. A heat pump is simply inadequate to provide heat in this climate. It works pretty well further south, but here we froze.

          I’m surprised that your area has so many heat pumps. I didn’t even see a heat pump in Western PA. They are barely adequate in DC. I don’t see how they would work from November-February in Cincy…

          The Brad

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            They don't work well down here, either.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              We have heat pumps plus a propane gas fire in the basement, and oil plus propane in the main house, so we get three separate energy bills, which is a bit of a PITA, but we have contingency!

              I was only joking

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                No wood burner?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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