Teddy Goes Down
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 00:32 last edited by
I wonder how many protesters will be needed to take down the Statue of Liberty?
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 00:56 last edited by xenon
There's apparently a renaming front this thing as well.
CancelYale was trending a day or so ago, because Yale was a slave trader.
Wait till people find out that New York was named after the Duke of York. I think he oversaw one of the most prolific slave trading operations (slaves in the six figures). They were often branded DY.
Wonder what NYC will be renamed to....
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 01:24 last edited by Renauda
No, New York was named after York, England. An Archbishopric and city dating from medieval times to be precise. The Duke of York is a peerage reserved for male members of the Royal Family, also dating from medieval times.
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 01:28 last edited by
It can be both.
From Wikipedia:
Some names were carried over directly and are found throughout the country (such as Manchester, Birmingham and Rochester). Others carry the prefix "New"; for example, the largest city in the US, New York, was named after York because King Charles II gave the land to his brother, James, the Duke of York (later James II).[1][2]
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 01:32 last edited by
National Geographic kids doesn’t sound like a very authoritative source, but was high on google
https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/explore/states/new-york/
WHY’S IT CALLED THAT?
New York was named after the British Duke of York. Many experts believe it’s nicknamed the Empire State because George Washington called New York “the seat of the Empire.””
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 01:33 last edited by Renauda
I am almost certain the city and not the peer, was in the minds of those who gave New York its name. I have in past had to read too much nonsense allegedly about my part of the world to give much of any credibility to National Geographic on the naming of New York. Great photos though.
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 01:43 last edited by
Yeah, like New Amsterdam and New Orleans.
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I am almost certain the city and not the peer, was in the minds of those who gave New York its name. I have in past had to read too much nonsense allegedly about my part of the world to give much of any credibility to National Geographic on the naming of New York. Great photos though.
wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 01:45 last edited by xenon@Renauda bbc and plenty of other sources say the same thing. I’m sure the real answer or most likely opinion is in some history book.
As I said, it’s seems the naming is in part a personal tribute to that British dude and the chief city of his dukedom. Obviously if the city York didn’t exist, there wouldn’t be New York.
https://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2015/02/7-american-cities-british-namesakes
- New York City, NY
The English weren’t the first to settle in New York, with the Dutch arriving in 1609 founding a trading post in 1624, but they were the last to take claim. In 1664 an English fleet arrived to the new land and the Dutch bowed out, and in 1674 the area was renamed New York after the Duke of York, James II, the brother of King Charles II. New York City is the largest city in the U.S. population-wise with approximately eight million people. York, England, on the other hand is a walled city, with approximately 200,000 people in residence. It makes us think of a gated community like here in the U.S., but … with battlement..
- New York City, NY
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 01:52 last edited by xenon
From the New York State Senate:
1664
In the Charter of 1664, New Netherland is claimed for England by King Charles II, who gives it to his brother, James, the Duke of York and Albany and later known as King James II. Under this charter for New York, the Duke of York has the power to establish laws, appoint officials, and make judiciary decisions that can only be appealed to the Privy Council in England. Eventually, the duke delegates many of his powers to his governors and establishes a "Council" which consists of important citizens who advise the governor..
https://www.nysenate.gov/timeline
If I’m reading that correctly it became part of his Dukedom
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 02:02 last edited by Renauda
Makes sense for it to be named after the peerage itself, which after all takes its name from a place. Arguably then we are both correct.
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 02:06 last edited by
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Makes sense for it to be named after the peerage itself, which after all takes its name from a place. Arguably then we are both correct.
wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 02:55 last edited by@Renauda said in Teddy Goes Down:
Makes sense for it to be named after the peerage itself, which after all takes its name from a place. Arguably then we are both correct.
Yes, and the song, "Teddy Goes Down to Georgia" came after the naming.
We are all 3 now correct, the world can take a week off.
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wrote on 22 Jun 2020, 11:22 last edited by
Seen on Twitter:
"Let me get this straight... they're removing the statue of the Roosevelt who didn't put American citizens into internment camps??"
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 00:37 last edited by
So a friend of mine is a C-level exec at at the Museum. Hates woke everything. He said the prevailing view is by sacrificing this statue they’ll relieve pressure against others (statues and artifacts).
I doubt it.
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So a friend of mine is a C-level exec at at the Museum. Hates woke everything. He said the prevailing view is by sacrificing this statue they’ll relieve pressure against others (statues and artifacts).
I doubt it.
wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 00:40 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Teddy Goes Down:
So a friend of mine is a C-level exec at at the Museum. Hates woke everything. He said the prevailing view is by sacrificing this statue they’ll relieve pressure against others (statues and artifacts).
I doubt it.
Feed the mob, is usually not a winning strategy.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 00:40 last edited by
I suspect you are right.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 01:29 last edited by
Night at the Museum is going to be really awkward from now on.
