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I think a red tide could be comin'.

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  • J Jolly
    9 Mar 2023, 18:18

    Thought we would see a Red Tide in the 2022 elections. We didn't.

    Never underestimate the GOP's ability to screw things up.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 18:24 last edited by
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    @Jolly said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

    Thought we would see a Red Tide in the 2022 elections. We didn't.

    Never underestimate the GOP's ability to screw things up.

    Oh I still think it's coming. I don't think 2022 was the right time for it.

    There's a massive cultural vacuum right now, and it's not exactly a conservative one, although there are a lot of overlaps. It's more "masculine" vs "feminine". We're so ridiculously all in on "feminine" arts and culture right now. It's a really good time to make something else.

    But, sadly, conservatives worship at the altar of the local businessman, not arts & humanities, so in terms of failed opportunities, that's a huge one they should fill but never will.

    Please love yourself.

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    • A Aqua Letifer
      9 Mar 2023, 18:24

      @Jolly said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

      Thought we would see a Red Tide in the 2022 elections. We didn't.

      Never underestimate the GOP's ability to screw things up.

      Oh I still think it's coming. I don't think 2022 was the right time for it.

      There's a massive cultural vacuum right now, and it's not exactly a conservative one, although there are a lot of overlaps. It's more "masculine" vs "feminine". We're so ridiculously all in on "feminine" arts and culture right now. It's a really good time to make something else.

      But, sadly, conservatives worship at the altar of the local businessman, not arts & humanities, so in terms of failed opportunities, that's a huge one they should fill but never will.

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      Horace
      wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 18:46 last edited by
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      @Aqua-Letifer said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

      There's a massive cultural vacuum right now, and it's not exactly a conservative one, although there are a lot of overlaps. It's more "masculine" vs "feminine".

      It seems our opinions on American culture have some fundamental similarities.

      Education is extremely important.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 19:01 last edited by
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        2022 was supposed to be a red wave. While it was disappointing that we didn’t see it, remember that waves are what we see on the surface. A tide is movement underneath, and I think we are already experiencing the beginnings of the red tide starting at the local level.

        Loudoun County has already changed 2 of their more problematic board members. We’ve seen similar all over the country… The next two elections can see a complete overhaul of politics at the local level. Our liberal DA Buta Biberaj will also be thrown out soon. That momentum should also carry over to County Commissioners and other local elections. It will also likely carry over to the state level. I believe our local state legislator will pay a price for opposing Sophie’s Law and other regulations to protect parental rights…

        Now I still think the county will lean D for US Senate, House, etc… but the numbers will be cut yet again…

        The Brad

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          Copper
          wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 19:32 last edited by
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          It is a mess in the Gulf right now.

          https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/environment/2023-03-08/red-tide-at-clearwater-beach-dunedin-causeway

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            Mik
            wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 19:44 last edited by
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            I think we are seeing a rejection of all things extreme and harmful, be they right or left. Real problems with extreme abortion bans are starting to show up and I think they will be dealt with. Hopefully we come to an unhappy middle ground. I think there is a thirst for ethical competence in our government.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • M Mik
              9 Mar 2023, 19:44

              I think we are seeing a rejection of all things extreme and harmful, be they right or left. Real problems with extreme abortion bans are starting to show up and I think they will be dealt with. Hopefully we come to an unhappy middle ground. I think there is a thirst for ethical competence in our government.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 20:04 last edited by
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              @Mik said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

              I think we are seeing a rejection of all things extreme and harmful, be they right or left. Real problems with extreme abortion bans are starting to show up and I think they will be dealt with. Hopefully we come to an unhappy middle ground. I think there is a thirst for ethical competence in our government.

              We've had a phase of this sort of stuff, with both sides really digging in their heels, and I think the left have been worse.

              It would be really nice if we could just have normal shit for a while. There has to be a place where neither AOC nor DJT are seen as a leading light of movement.

              I was only joking

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                9 Mar 2023, 20:04

                @Mik said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                I think we are seeing a rejection of all things extreme and harmful, be they right or left. Real problems with extreme abortion bans are starting to show up and I think they will be dealt with. Hopefully we come to an unhappy middle ground. I think there is a thirst for ethical competence in our government.

                We've had a phase of this sort of stuff, with both sides really digging in their heels, and I think the left have been worse.

                It would be really nice if we could just have normal shit for a while. There has to be a place where neither AOC nor DJT are seen as a leading light of movement.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 20:17 last edited by
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                @Mik said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                I think we are seeing a rejection of all things extreme and harmful, be they right or left. Real problems with extreme abortion bans are starting to show up and I think they will be dealt with. Hopefully we come to an unhappy middle ground. I think there is a thirst for ethical competence in our government.

                We've had a phase of this sort of stuff, with both sides really digging in their heels, and I think the left have been worse.

                It would be really nice if we could just have normal shit for a while. There has to be a place where neither AOC nor DJT are seen as a leading light of movement.

                I really do think that MJT is far more of an outlier than AOC.

                The Brad

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                • C Copper
                  9 Mar 2023, 19:32

                  It is a mess in the Gulf right now.

                  https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/environment/2023-03-08/red-tide-at-clearwater-beach-dunedin-causeway

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 20:17 last edited by
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                  @Copper said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                  It is a mess in the Gulf right now.

                  https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/environment/2023-03-08/red-tide-at-clearwater-beach-dunedin-causeway

                  My parents say they can notice it at their house, and they're 2 miles in.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 21:32 last edited by
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                    My sister is spending a couple months in Florida with the intention of looking for a retirement place on the Gulf Coast.

                    She got a good look, and smell, at the red tide this year and said forget it.

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      9 Mar 2023, 20:17

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                      @Mik said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                      I think we are seeing a rejection of all things extreme and harmful, be they right or left. Real problems with extreme abortion bans are starting to show up and I think they will be dealt with. Hopefully we come to an unhappy middle ground. I think there is a thirst for ethical competence in our government.

                      We've had a phase of this sort of stuff, with both sides really digging in their heels, and I think the left have been worse.

                      It would be really nice if we could just have normal shit for a while. There has to be a place where neither AOC nor DJT are seen as a leading light of movement.

                      I really do think that MJT is far more of an outlier than AOC.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 9 Mar 2023, 23:43 last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                      @Mik said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                      I think we are seeing a rejection of all things extreme and harmful, be they right or left. Real problems with extreme abortion bans are starting to show up and I think they will be dealt with. Hopefully we come to an unhappy middle ground. I think there is a thirst for ethical competence in our government.

                      We've had a phase of this sort of stuff, with both sides really digging in their heels, and I think the left have been worse.

                      It would be really nice if we could just have normal shit for a while. There has to be a place where neither AOC nor DJT are seen as a leading light of movement.

                      I really do think that MJT is far more of an outlier than AOC.

                      I didn’t say MJT I said DJT

                      I was only joking

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 10 Mar 2023, 15:44 last edited by
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                        Hard to say, we all thought that last year. So much can happen. Also there’s a good chance the GOP could overplay its hand on abortion bills. Or put Trump on top of the ticket and cost votes downballot too.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 10 Mar 2023, 15:49 last edited by Doctor Phibes 3 Oct 2023, 15:50
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                          I think there's a real danger of overestimating the importance of this sort of thing. There are always reactions to what's gone before - both Trump and Biden were elected on this type of reaction, and I suspect neither of them will serve second terms. Also, if Obama was eligible to have run in 2016 or 2020, I'm pretty sure he'd have won either election.

                          I was only joking

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 10 Mar 2023, 15:52 last edited by
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                            It's hard to imagine the two parties will offer us up the same two candidates again. Maybe the Libertarians or the Greens or whoever will win because no one else shows up to vote.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              10 Mar 2023, 15:52

                              It's hard to imagine the two parties will offer us up the same two candidates again. Maybe the Libertarians or the Greens or whoever will win because no one else shows up to vote.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 10 Mar 2023, 22:52 last edited by
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                              @Mik said in I think a red tide could be comin'.:

                              It's hard to imagine the two parties will offer us up the same two candidates again. Maybe the Libertarians or the Greens or whoever will win because no one else shows up to vote.

                              I'll have what he's having...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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