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Will TuCa change the narrative?

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @Renauda said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

    @Jolly

    I seem to remember you telling all your South of the Border friends to MYOB. 😁

    Indeed and right you are, because you doofuses were listening to and believing lock, stock and barrel what that fucker Tucker had to say about was happening here and getting it all wrong.

    Personally, I don't care if you wish to wade hip-deep into the blood sport of American politics. But occasionally, retrospection is necessary to prevent future mistakes. 😛

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    Renauda
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    #54

    @Jolly

    Personally, I don't care if you wish to wade hip-deep into the blood sport of American politics.

    Difficult not to when Rome is your closest neighbour.

    But occasionally, retrospection is necessary to prevent future mistakes. 😛

    What Carlson projects cannot be described as anything near retrospection let alone sober thought.

    Elbows up!

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      #55

      Wasn't talking about Carson...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Wasn't talking about Carson...

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        Renauda
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        #56

        @Jolly

        Well, I am talking about Carlson the hysteria he was and continues to generate and Rome is indeed my closest neighbour.

        Elbows up!

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          Jolly
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          #57

          Tonight, Tucker compared Police injuries during the 2020 riots vs January 6.

          There were more injuries in 2020. A lot more, according to records.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Copper
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            #58

            180 in 2020 and 114 on 1/6

            It was something like that

            The response to that is, so what?

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            • CopperC Copper

              180 in 2020 and 114 on 1/6

              It was something like that

              The response to that is, so what?

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              Jolly
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              #59

              @Copper said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

              180 in 2020 and 114 on 1/6

              It was something like that

              The response to that is, so what?

              His point was that where were the Congressional hearings on the 2020 riot? If 2020 was more violent, was it also not a threat to democracy?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Horace
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                #60

                NYC decided to pay 2020 rioters 21k each, because in the moment, the cops felt they needed to use some force, and we simply can't have that.

                Now people will riot harder next time, in the hopes of goading some force out of the cops, and then getting paid.

                1. Riot
                2. ???
                3. Profit

                2 used to be "loot", but now, it's "sue".

                https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/01/us/new-york-george-floyd-protesters-settlement/index.html

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Axtremus
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                  #61

                  Based on the video footage …

                  Link to video

                  … John Wick is a peaceful man.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #62

                    Well, that's fiction. Now, back to reality...

                    Link to video

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Axtremus
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                      #63

                      More reality:

                      https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3889058-tucker-carlson-said-he-hates-trump-passionately-legal-filings/

                      Among text messages sent by Tucker Carlson:

                      “We are very very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait,” … (Jan. 4, 2021)

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        More reality:

                        https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3889058-tucker-carlson-said-he-hates-trump-passionately-legal-filings/

                        Among text messages sent by Tucker Carlson:

                        “We are very very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait,” … (Jan. 4, 2021)

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                        @Axtremus said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                        More reality:

                        https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3889058-tucker-carlson-said-he-hates-trump-passionately-legal-filings/

                        Among text messages sent by Tucker Carlson:

                        “We are very very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait,” … (Jan. 4, 2021)

                        Red herring, but nice try at deflection.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          George K
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                          #65

                          Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                          If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                            If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

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                            #66

                            @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                            Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                            If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

                            If their staff had access to the video, they had access. They didn't ask.

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                              @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                              Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                              If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

                              If their staff had access to the video, they had access. They didn't ask.

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                              @kluurs said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                              @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                              Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                              If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

                              If their staff had access to the video, they had access. They didn't ask.

                              What am I missing here?

                              "Thompson said he doesn’t think any of the Jan. 6 members themselves ever had access to the footage....I'm actually not aware of any member of the committee who had access. We had a team of employees who kind of went through the video."

                              A "team of employees" had access, but not members of the committee?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • kluursK kluurs

                                @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                                If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

                                If their staff had access to the video, they had access. They didn't ask.

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                                Jolly
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                                @kluurs said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                                If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

                                If their staff had access to the video, they had access. They didn't ask.

                                DING! DING! DING!

                                They didn't care about the Truth. They were crafting a narrative.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @kluurs said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                  @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                  Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                                  If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

                                  If their staff had access to the video, they had access. They didn't ask.

                                  What am I missing here?

                                  "Thompson said he doesn’t think any of the Jan. 6 members themselves ever had access to the footage....I'm actually not aware of any member of the committee who had access. We had a team of employees who kind of went through the video."

                                  A "team of employees" had access, but not members of the committee?

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                                  Jolly
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                                  @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                  @kluurs said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                  @George-K said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                  Guess who didn't have access to the video?

                                  If you guessed members of the Jan 6 committee, you'd be right.

                                  If their staff had access to the video, they had access. They didn't ask.

                                  What am I missing here?

                                  "Thompson said he doesn’t think any of the Jan. 6 members themselves ever had access to the footage....I'm actually not aware of any member of the committee who had access. We had a team of employees who kind of went through the video."

                                  A "team of employees" had access, but not members of the committee?

                                  Tucker is having an effect...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Jolly
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                                    Tucker weighs in...

                                    But what was actually surprising, what we can't quite get over even now, is how they responded when they were caught lying. They didn't seem embarrassed. They didn't apologize. They weren't even curious to learn more about what actually happened on January 6. Let's see the tape. No, they don't want to see it. They exploded in rage. And then as liars tend to do, they doubled down.

                                    They told the same lies they'd been caught telling, but with even greater aggression this time. Shut up. It's midnight, they said, as the sun rose behind them. Who acts like that? Well, sociopaths do and in this case, the sociopaths turned out to be both Democrats and Republicans. The commitment to lying in Washington is far deeper and more bipartisan even than we realize, and we follow this stuff for a living.

                                    Now, you sometimes hear people say that the whole partisan system is an illusion and that underneath the manufactured debates, the leaders on both sides are, in fact, secretly united in a common love of money and power and the deception required to get them. And honestly, we can never really bring ourselves to believe that. It's just too dark. But now we do believe it because we have seen it.

                                    The rest:

                                    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/09/tucker_carlson_republican_senators_outrage_over_january_6_footage_shows_they_are_loyal_to_each_other_not_their_voters.html

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Tucker weighs in...

                                      But what was actually surprising, what we can't quite get over even now, is how they responded when they were caught lying. They didn't seem embarrassed. They didn't apologize. They weren't even curious to learn more about what actually happened on January 6. Let's see the tape. No, they don't want to see it. They exploded in rage. And then as liars tend to do, they doubled down.

                                      They told the same lies they'd been caught telling, but with even greater aggression this time. Shut up. It's midnight, they said, as the sun rose behind them. Who acts like that? Well, sociopaths do and in this case, the sociopaths turned out to be both Democrats and Republicans. The commitment to lying in Washington is far deeper and more bipartisan even than we realize, and we follow this stuff for a living.

                                      Now, you sometimes hear people say that the whole partisan system is an illusion and that underneath the manufactured debates, the leaders on both sides are, in fact, secretly united in a common love of money and power and the deception required to get them. And honestly, we can never really bring ourselves to believe that. It's just too dark. But now we do believe it because we have seen it.

                                      The rest:

                                      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/09/tucker_carlson_republican_senators_outrage_over_january_6_footage_shows_they_are_loyal_to_each_other_not_their_voters.html

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                                      @Jolly said in Will TuCa change the narrative?:

                                      And honestly, we can never really bring ourselves to believe that. It's just too dark.

                                      Isn't that the story of the last 20 years?

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                                        More of TuCa changing the narrative:

                                        https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/tucker-carlsons-scorn-for-trump-revealed-in-defamation-lawsuit-filings
                                        …
                                        Addressing Trump’s four years as president, Carlson said, “We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There really isn’t an upside to Trump.”

                                        In another text exchange more than a month earlier, Carlson denigrated Trump’s business abilities: Trump’s talent, he said, is to “destroy things. He could easily destroy us if we play it wrong.”
                                        …

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                                          Jolly
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                                          Ah, you desperately keep trying to shift the focus, do you not?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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