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The Asteroid Belt

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Interesting story.

    tl;dr: If there were a planet between Mars and Jupiter and it were of sufficient mass, it would disrupt the orbit of Jupiter, and potentially all other planets, making life difficult, if not unsustainable or impossible.

    https://scitechdaily.com/astrophysicist-reveals-planet-that-could-end-life-on-earth/

    The results, published in the Planetary Science Journal, were mostly disastrous for the solar system. “This fictional planet gives a nudge to Jupiter that is just enough to destabilize everything else,” Kane said. “Despite many astronomers having wished for this extra planet, it’s a good thing we don’t have it.”

    Depending on the mass and exact location of a super-Earth, its presence could ultimately eject Mercury and Venus as well as Earth from the solar system. It could also destabilize the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, tossing them into outer space as well.

    The super-Earth would change the shape of this Earth’s orbit, making it far less habitable than it is today, if not ending life entirely.

    If Kane made the planet’s mass smaller and put it directly in between Mars and Jupiter, he saw it was possible for the planet to remain stable for a long period of time. But small moves in any direction and, “things would go poorly,” he said.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      Same goes for pretty much every other planet, given enough time.

      Please love yourself.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #3

        Yes, given enough time, Earth will have an environmental crisis.

        Then it will go away.

        Then it will come back again.

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          Horace
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          "then" doesn't really apply to the "next" universe where the "next" earth appears, after this one collapses or goes entropic. There is no time scale on which two different universes exist. Each has its own time scale.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • George KG George K

            Interesting story.

            tl;dr: If there were a planet between Mars and Jupiter and it were of sufficient mass, it would disrupt the orbit of Jupiter, and potentially all other planets, making life difficult, if not unsustainable or impossible.

            https://scitechdaily.com/astrophysicist-reveals-planet-that-could-end-life-on-earth/

            The results, published in the Planetary Science Journal, were mostly disastrous for the solar system. “This fictional planet gives a nudge to Jupiter that is just enough to destabilize everything else,” Kane said. “Despite many astronomers having wished for this extra planet, it’s a good thing we don’t have it.”

            Depending on the mass and exact location of a super-Earth, its presence could ultimately eject Mercury and Venus as well as Earth from the solar system. It could also destabilize the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, tossing them into outer space as well.

            The super-Earth would change the shape of this Earth’s orbit, making it far less habitable than it is today, if not ending life entirely.

            If Kane made the planet’s mass smaller and put it directly in between Mars and Jupiter, he saw it was possible for the planet to remain stable for a long period of time. But small moves in any direction and, “things would go poorly,” he said.

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
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            @George-K said in The Asteroid Belt:

            Interesting story.

            tl;dr: If there were a planet between Mars and Jupiter and it were of sufficient mass, it would disrupt the orbit of Jupiter, and potentially all other planets, making life difficult, if not unsustainable or impossible.

            I’m pretty sure that’s Elon’s stretch goal.

            Today Twitter, tomorrow the world!

            I was only joking

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            • CopperC Copper

              Yes, given enough time, Earth will have an environmental crisis.

              Then it will go away.

              Then it will come back again.

              markM Offline
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              mark
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              @Copper said in The Asteroid Belt:

              Yes, given enough time, Earth will have an environmental crisis.

              Then it will go away.

              Then it will come back again.

              There will be a day when it will not go away The atmosphere will be stripped away, the oceans will boil into vapor and be lost to space. The earth will be too hot to sustain any form of life as we know it.

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              • markM mark

                @Copper said in The Asteroid Belt:

                Yes, given enough time, Earth will have an environmental crisis.

                Then it will go away.

                Then it will come back again.

                There will be a day when it will not go away The atmosphere will be stripped away, the oceans will boil into vapor and be lost to space. The earth will be too hot to sustain any form of life as we know it.

                CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                @mark said in The Asteroid Belt:

                The earth will be too hot to sustain any form of life as we know it.

                Because Klaus drove his new car.

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                • markM mark

                  @Copper said in The Asteroid Belt:

                  Yes, given enough time, Earth will have an environmental crisis.

                  Then it will go away.

                  Then it will come back again.

                  There will be a day when it will not go away The atmosphere will be stripped away, the oceans will boil into vapor and be lost to space. The earth will be too hot to sustain any form of life as we know it.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  @mark said in The Asteroid Belt:

                  @Copper said in The Asteroid Belt:

                  Yes, given enough time, Earth will have an environmental crisis.

                  Then it will go away.

                  Then it will come back again.

                  There will be a day when it will not go away The atmosphere will be stripped away, the oceans will boil into vapor and be lost to space. The earth will be too hot to sustain any form of life as we know it.

                  Mars with heat.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @mark said in The Asteroid Belt:

                    @Copper said in The Asteroid Belt:

                    Yes, given enough time, Earth will have an environmental crisis.

                    Then it will go away.

                    Then it will come back again.

                    There will be a day when it will not go away The atmosphere will be stripped away, the oceans will boil into vapor and be lost to space. The earth will be too hot to sustain any form of life as we know it.

                    Mars with heat.

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                    mark
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                    @Jolly said in The Asteroid Belt:

                    @mark said in The Asteroid Belt:

                    @Copper said in The Asteroid Belt:

                    Yes, given enough time, Earth will have an environmental crisis.

                    Then it will go away.

                    Then it will come back again.

                    There will be a day when it will not go away The atmosphere will be stripped away, the oceans will boil into vapor and be lost to space. The earth will be too hot to sustain any form of life as we know it.

                    Mars with heat.

                    For a while. Then it will be consumed by the expanding sun as it transitions to the red giant phase before ultimately becoming a white dwarf.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #10

                      On the positive side, inflation and unemployment will both hit record lows.

                      I was only joking

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