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I think he's missing a lot...

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-state-of-our-unions/202302/why-are-so-many-young-men-single-and-sexless

    What he's not talking about is the current on-line dating culture. Women are actively pursuing the top 10% of males. And they are pursuing guys older than they are, which is not unusual.

    So...Be a broke 26 year-old, with average looks and a high school education, and see how far you get on-line.....

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      I don’t think the dynamic is all that different than the old IRL dynamic. Women were always extra-choosy, and the top x% of males have always had far more options than the rest.

      What the online aspect does is make it more efficient.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        I'd have to agree with Jon. It's always been that way. What I think is different is that in the past you had to go out and mingle to have any sort of social life at all, much less a girlfriend. There's a lot less impetus to do that now, and it's a sad thing.

        I say this while I spend a couple hours today talking with my imaginary friends. 😁

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          I don’t think the dynamic is all that different than the old IRL dynamic. Women were always extra-choosy, and the top x% of males have always had far more options than the rest.

          What the online aspect does is make it more efficient.

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          Axtremus
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          @jon-nyc said in I think he's missing a lot...:

          What the online aspect does is make it more efficient.

          The online aspect makes everything "winner takes all" more efficient.

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            There used to be more social pressure for both genders to get married young.

            That’s fading.

            Not sure it’s all to do with the internet.

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              There used to be more social pressure for both genders to get married young.

              That’s fading.

              Not sure it’s all to do with the internet.

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              @xenon said in I think he's missing a lot...:

              There used to be more social pressure for both genders to get married young.

              That’s fading.

              Not sure it’s all to do with the internet.

              There is a lot to recommend marrying young, if both are mature. One can help the other through school or the start of a career, then that can be reciprocated. It's better for the woman to have her first child before 30. Especially for the woman, but something that applies to both partners, the less sexual partners they have before marriage, the less chance of infidelity within the marriage.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                @xenon said in I think he's missing a lot...:

                There used to be more social pressure for both genders to get married young.

                That’s fading.

                Not sure it’s all to do with the internet.

                There is a lot to recommend marrying young, if both are mature. One can help the other through school or the start of a career, then that can be reciprocated. It's better for the woman to have her first child before 30. Especially for the woman, but something that applies to both partners, the less sexual partners they have before marriage, the less chance of infidelity within the marriage.

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                Axtremus
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                @Jolly said in I think he's missing a lot...:

                There is a lot to recommend marrying young … the [fewer] sexual partners they have before marriage, the less chance of infidelity within the marriage.

                1. Why? Because people insufficiently attractive to attract many sexual partners before marriage likely to continue being insufficiently attractive to attract many sexual partners after marriage?
                2. Probabilistically, the longer a marriage exists, the more likely an infidelity event occurs sometime within the marriage, no? Imagine getting married so old that you die right after saying your marriage vow or signing the marriage certificate, there would be no time for infidelity to occur within the marriage at all.
                3. Logically, there would be no infidelity within a marriage if there is no marriage to begin with.
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                  @Jolly said in I think he's missing a lot...:

                  There is a lot to recommend marrying young … the [fewer] sexual partners they have before marriage, the less chance of infidelity within the marriage.

                  1. Why? Because people insufficiently attractive to attract many sexual partners before marriage likely to continue being insufficiently attractive to attract many sexual partners after marriage?
                  2. Probabilistically, the longer a marriage exists, the more likely an infidelity event occurs sometime within the marriage, no? Imagine getting married so old that you die right after saying your marriage vow or signing the marriage certificate, there would be no time for infidelity to occur within the marriage at all.
                  3. Logically, there would be no infidelity within a marriage if there is no marriage to begin with.
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                  Jolly
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                  @Axtremus said in I think he's missing a lot...:

                  @Jolly said in I think he's missing a lot...:

                  There is a lot to recommend marrying young … the [fewer] sexual partners they have before marriage, the less chance of infidelity within the marriage.

                  1. Why? Because people insufficiently attractive to attract many sexual partners before marriage likely to continue being insufficiently attractive to attract many sexual partners after marriage?
                  2. Probabilistically, the longer a marriage exists, the more likely an infidelity event occurs sometime within the marriage, no? Imagine getting married so old that you die right after saying your marriage vow or signing the marriage certificate, there would be no time for infidelity to occur within the marriage at all.
                  3. Logically, there would be no infidelity within a marriage if there is no marriage to begin with.

                  More than one study has been done on sexual partners before a marriage and infidelity within the marriage. Can't recall the number for men, but the magic number for women is three. Three and under doesn't seem to make much difference. Over three and the infidelity rate skyrockets.

                  Personally, I just jot that one down to common sense. The more partners you have, the less satisfied you'll be with one person for life.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Jolly
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                    Education gap?

                    https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-college-dating-divide

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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