The digital tip jar
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If you need the money raise your prices.
If you are depending on the kindness of strangers, you might be disappointed.
wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 05:19 last edited by@Copper said in The digital tip jar:
If you need the money raise your prices.
If you are depending on the kindness of strangers, you might be disappointed.
I never was when I worked for tips. Although sure, maybe that wouldn't be the case with you.
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My one weird tipping situation is when I go back to my old neighborhood. It’s almost majority Indian. Indians, on average, tip poorly. I tip well - especially considering my old hood is in Canada and I tip by higher American standards.
Now - wait staff in Canada often give me bare minimum service. Rational thing to do, odds are they’re right.
Puts me in a weird spot. Do I tip to prove them wrong, or validate their stereotype by tipping poorly…
wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 05:21 last edited by Aqua Letifer@xenon said in The digital tip jar:
My one weird tipping situation is when I go back to my old neighborhood. It’s almost majority Indian. Indians, on average, tip poorly. I tip well - especially considering my old hood is in Canada and I tip by higher American standards.
Now - wait staff in Canada often give me bare minimum service. Rational thing to do, odds are they’re right.
Puts me in a weird spot. Do I tip to prove them wrong, or validate their stereotype by tipping poorly…
There's a vibe put out that even half-decent wait staff can easily pick up on. If they see you appreciating what they're trying to do and you make that obvious, see if they don't respond to it. I bet some will.
If they don't, hey, fuck 'em.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 11:07 last edited by
As I’ve said many times, I love to give a big tip 25-35%. It means I had great food and service, what I came in for. On the other hand, I’m not hesitant to leave any other amount I think is justified, from 0 to 20%. It really depends on the server. Do the minimum? Get the minimum.
But you have to be fair, and consider the circumstances the server is working in. Don’t blame them for things beyond their control.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 11:09 last edited by
Oh, also? If you just drink water, be sure to tip as if you had a soft drink or tea. They still have to do the same work.
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Oh, also? If you just drink water, be sure to tip as if you had a soft drink or tea. They still have to do the same work.
wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 12:15 last edited by@Mik said in The digital tip jar:
Oh, also? If you just drink water, be sure to tip as if you had a soft drink or tea. They still have to do the same work.
And if I had a beer? Still the same work…
I don’t mind tipping, I do mind how the goalposts keep moving. I also mind the sneaky new service charges with tip then added on top… I also don’t care for the shift in attitude from tips being gratefully accepted to tips being resentfully expected.
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As I’ve said many times, I love to give a big tip 25-35%. It means I had great food and service, what I came in for. On the other hand, I’m not hesitant to leave any other amount I think is justified, from 0 to 20%. It really depends on the server. Do the minimum? Get the minimum.
But you have to be fair, and consider the circumstances the server is working in. Don’t blame them for things beyond their control.
wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 12:20 last edited by@Mik said in The digital tip jar:
Do the minimum? Get the minimum.
What, in your opinion, is the minimum?
Bring menu (sometimes), take order, deliver food, deliver check. That about it?
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wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 12:38 last edited by
It’s like porn. I know it when I see it. Minimum is more an attitude than an action.
And I agree with you on the shifting goalposts. For instance, if I have to stand in line to order my food? No tip, or small (10%) if it was good service for the environment. To go? I agree with Kluurs. They have to do nearly as much as for tableside service so I tip there but more inclined to b 15%.
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It’s like porn. I know it when I see it. Minimum is more an attitude than an action.
And I agree with you on the shifting goalposts. For instance, if I have to stand in line to order my food? No tip, or small (10%) if it was good service for the environment. To go? I agree with Kluurs. They have to do nearly as much as for tableside service so I tip there but more inclined to b 15%.
wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 12:43 last edited by@Mik said in The digital tip jar:
They have to do nearly as much as for tableside service so I tip there but more inclined to b 15%.
Agreed. I usually end up going just a bit more. However....
The work involved in delivering a $65 order is about the same as delivering a $30 order. Pick up, drive, drop off.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 13:58 last edited by Copper
How much did you tip these guys?
And how did that work out?
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wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 16:17 last edited by
@Copper said in The digital tip jar:
How much did you tip these guys?
And how did that work out?
Who spit in your soup, man?
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@Mik said in The digital tip jar:
They have to do nearly as much as for tableside service so I tip there but more inclined to b 15%.
Agreed. I usually end up going just a bit more. However....
The work involved in delivering a $65 order is about the same as delivering a $30 order. Pick up, drive, drop off.
wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 16:18 last edited by@George-K said in The digital tip jar:
The work involved in delivering a $65 order is about the same as delivering a $30 order. Pick up, drive, drop off.
Uh, no, that entirely depends.
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@George-K said in The digital tip jar:
The work involved in delivering a $65 order is about the same as delivering a $30 order. Pick up, drive, drop off.
Uh, no, that entirely depends.
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wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 17:01 last edited by
@George-K said in The digital tip jar:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The digital tip jar:
Uh, no, that entirely depends.
'Splain, please?
Third-party delivery drivers? Yeah, there's probably nothing to that. Direct hires are very, very different.
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@George-K said in The digital tip jar:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The digital tip jar:
Uh, no, that entirely depends.
'Splain, please?
Third-party delivery drivers? Yeah, there's probably nothing to that. Direct hires are very, very different.
wrote on 25 Feb 2023, 17:16 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The digital tip jar:
Third-party delivery drivers? Yeah, there's probably nothing to that. Direct hires are very, very different.
That's what I was talking about - Doordash, Grubhub, etc.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 00:55 last edited by
Eliminate tips. LOL I have made my feeling known before, but almost any job can be considered a "service" job. Pay the workers a decent regular wage and eliminate tips.
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Eliminate tips. LOL I have made my feeling known before, but almost any job can be considered a "service" job. Pay the workers a decent regular wage and eliminate tips.
wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 01:12 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in The digital tip jar:
Eliminate tips. LOL I have made my feeling known before, but almost any job can be considered a "service" job. Pay the workers a decent regular wage and eliminate tips.
When the vast majority of those very same workers would adamantly disagree with you, I don't think you have much of a case.
Please love yourself.
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wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 01:23 last edited by
Thing is, 10% used to be an ok tip. Not anymore.
What happened?
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@taiwan_girl said in The digital tip jar:
Eliminate tips. LOL I have made my feeling known before, but almost any job can be considered a "service" job. Pay the workers a decent regular wage and eliminate tips.
When the vast majority of those very same workers would adamantly disagree with you, I don't think you have much of a case.
wrote on 17 Apr 2023, 01:40 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The digital tip jar:
@taiwan_girl said in The digital tip jar:
Eliminate tips. LOL I have made my feeling known before, but almost any job can be considered a "service" job. Pay the workers a decent regular wage and eliminate tips.
When the vast majority of those very same workers would adamantly disagree with you, I don't think you have much of a case.
Then there is something wrong with the system in the US.
If a waiter or someone like that does their job extraordinary well, it is not the customers responsibility to pay them for doing that.
If @George-K or @Jolly or @bachophile do a great job in the operating room on me, should I "slip" them some money in recognition?
I take my car in for service, and since it will be couple hours, the technician offers to take the time to drive me home and pick me up when the car is ready? Hmm, going above his job. Tip?
Anyway, i think we have to agree to disagree. :woman-heart-man:
I just dont understand how jobs that rely on tips are so different than other jobs in the workforce.
