Considering a grand
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Now for something totally off the wall...If any of you are down in Philly, drop by Cunningham's and test drive their Cunningham Parlor Grand.
Made by Hailun (or at least it used to be) with a heavier plate and a scale by an old Baldwin guy, it might surprise you.
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To expand on my earlier post. Baldwin Artist Grands in the 80’s and 90’s were as fine of an instrument as could be found. There were a few quality control issues that mostly affected the instruments in the late 90’s but even then fine instruments could be found. The key is having a good technician go over them from top to bottom.
But the financial problems they suffered in the early 2000s and all of the crap that happened with Gibson drove down the perception of the brand. It the fallboards said Steinway, those L’s would cost $45K. Just have a good technical evaluation. Check for warped or split action rails or splitting bridges in particular.
If there is a Steinway for 25K it is likely in need of extensive repairs or is in decent playing shape now but will need extensive work in 10 years, leaving the dealer in a weird spot of deciding whether to rebuild it or not.
Mason? When was it rebuilt, who rebuilt it, how good was the end result? $40K is way too much when you have those Baldwins available for so much less.
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To expand on my earlier post. Baldwin Artist Grands in the 80’s and 90’s were as fine of an instrument as could be found. There were a few quality control issues that mostly affected the instruments in the late 90’s but even then fine instruments could be found. The key is having a good technician go over them from top to bottom.
But the financial problems they suffered in the early 2000s and all of the crap that happened with Gibson drove down the perception of the brand. It the fallboards said Steinway, those L’s would cost $45K. Just have a good technical evaluation. Check for warped or split action rails or splitting bridges in particular.
If there is a Steinway for 25K it is likely in need of extensive repairs or is in decent playing shape now but will need extensive work in 10 years, leaving the dealer in a weird spot of deciding whether to rebuild it or not.
Mason? When was it rebuilt, who rebuilt it, how good was the end result? $40K is way too much when you have those Baldwins available for so much less.
@LuFins-Dad said in Considering a grand:
To expand on my earlier post. Baldwin Artist Grands in the 80’s and 90’s were as fine of an instrument as could be found. There were a few quality control issues that mostly affected the instruments in the late 90’s but even then fine instruments could be found. The key is having a good technician go over them from top to bottom.
But the financial problems they suffered in the early 2000s and all of the crap that happened with Gibson drove down the perception of the brand. It the fallboards said Steinway, those L’s would cost $45K. Just have a good technical evaluation. Check for warped or split action rails or splitting bridges in particular.
If there is a Steinway for 25K it is likely in need of extensive repairs or is in decent playing shape now but will need extensive work in 10 years, leaving the dealer in a weird spot of deciding whether to rebuild it or not.
Mason? When was it rebuilt, who rebuilt it, how good was the end result? $40K is way too much when you have those Baldwins available for so much less.
Thanks LD! I will check them out today.
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Used pianos, all comes down to their conditions.
Looks like you have a very nice space for the piano.
Don’t know if you have ever mentioned it, does Mrs. Horace play the piano?
In any case, good luck with your quest for a grand piano.@Axtremus said in Considering a grand:
Used pianos, all comes down to their conditions.
Looks like you have a very nice space for the piano.
Don’t know if you have ever mentioned it, does Mrs. Horace play the piano?
In any case, good luck with your quest for a grand piano.Thanks Ax. No she doesn’t play. But has expressed interest in learning.
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This is interesting...The Chinese Piano lady...
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This is interesting...The Chinese Piano lady...
@Jolly said in Considering a grand:
This is interesting...The Chinese Piano lady...
Good resource, thanks Jolly.
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Caveat: I don't know her from Eve. She's the product of an internet search and for all I know, could be a cereal killer.
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Caveat: I don't know her from Eve. She's the product of an internet search and for all I know, could be a cereal killer.
@Jolly said in Considering a grand:
Caveat: I don't know her from Eve. She's the product of an internet search and for all I know, could be a cereal killer.
Magic Spoon is the cereal killer. I’m getting my first delivery today as chance would have it.
Education is extremely important.
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There's an SF10 in Altanta on ebay. They'll deliver for $15K. I suspect they'll do better and you'd need a tech to review their "refurbishing."
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There's an SF10 in Altanta on ebay. They'll deliver for $15K. I suspect they'll do better and you'd need a tech to review their "refurbishing."
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@Jolly said in Considering a grand:
Caveat: I don't know her from Eve. She's the product of an internet search and for all I know, could be a cereal killer.
Magic Spoon is the cereal killer. I’m getting my first delivery today as chance would have it.
@Horace said in Considering a grand:
Magic Spoon is the cereal killer. I’m getting my first delivery today as chance would have it.
I go back and forth, every other day, Cheerios - Corn Chex
I have never heard of Magic Spoon.
But I'm willing to try something new, let's check Magic Spoon vs Cheerios
https://knoji.com/compare/magicspoon-vs-cheerios/Magic Spoon wins 4.2 to 3.9 but the methodology is questionable
How about cost on Amazon?
Between $1.07 and 1.81 per ounce for Magic SpoonBetween $0.25 and $0.27 per ounce for Cheerios
Cheerios wins
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There's an SF10 in Altanta on ebay. They'll deliver for $15K. I suspect they'll do better and you'd need a tech to review their "refurbishing."
Link to video@kluurs said in Considering a grand:
There's an SF10 in Altanta on ebay. They'll deliver for $15K. I suspect they'll do better and you'd need a tech to review their "refurbishing."
Link to videoThat sounds great. But sadly, it seems I overestimated my wife's enthusiasm for this project. Well, I'll still check out those Baldwins today. I hope they don't sound too good. My heart will be broken.
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There's an SF10 in Altanta on ebay. They'll deliver for $15K. I suspect they'll do better and you'd need a tech to review their "refurbishing."
Link to video@kluurs said in Considering a grand:
There's an SF10 in Altanta on ebay. They'll deliver for $15K. I suspect they'll do better and you'd need a tech to review their "refurbishing."
Link to videoDon or Sam Bennett in the Atlanta area.
Don's shop redid all of LSU's stuff after a flood a few years ago. I'd trust them.
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@kluurs said in Considering a grand:
There's an SF10 in Altanta on ebay. They'll deliver for $15K. I suspect they'll do better and you'd need a tech to review their "refurbishing."
Link to videoDon or Sam Bennett in the Atlanta area.
Don's shop redid all of LSU's stuff after a flood a few years ago. I'd trust them.
@Jolly said in Considering a grand:
@kluurs said in Considering a grand:
There's an SF10 in Altanta on ebay. They'll deliver for $15K. I suspect they'll do better and you'd need a tech to review their "refurbishing."
Link to videoDon or Sam Bennett in the Atlanta area.
Don's shop redid all of LSU's stuff after a flood a few years ago. I'd trust them.
This listing is not for Don Bennett's shop. That's all I will say regarding A440.
