Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss
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@jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
As would a few tens of millions of American “patriots”.
The difference may be that some of these "patriots" you refer to truly do not believe that what Trump does is unconstitutional and would defend Trump on that ground, while the Republican cited two posts above seems to realize that what Trump does is unconstitutional, would not defend Trump, but seeks to overlook the transgression entirely. In some sense, the former maybe truly ignorant, the later willfully feigns it.
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Senate Republicans confront their problems after poor election showing
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/07/politics/trump-republicans-georgia-senate-race/index.html
"... Trump obsession is very bad for Republicans," says retiring GOP Senator Pat Toomey.
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Post 2022 election underperformance, the GOP may be rethinking its resistance against mail-in voting and early voting.
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Trump's support among the Republicans is eroding.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/22/trump-south-carolina-campaign/
Trump is having trouble consolidating support in South Carolina. GOP donors/activists there are split supporting Gov. Nikki Haley and Sen. Tim Scott.
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https://politicalwire.com/2023/02/05/koch-network-may-move-against-trump/
The Koch network will oppose Trump in the 2024 GOO primary.
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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/02/09/gop-trump-2024-election-00081944
The GOP Is Starting to Plot Against Donald Trump
Republican Party donors and leaders are talking about how best to stop Trump from running away with the nomination again in 2024. But they don’t have a clear plan to stop him.... Eric Levine, a top GOP fundraiser who has been calling on the party to move on from Trump since the 2020 election and the uprising at the Capitol. “He is a metastasizing cancer who if he is not stopped is going to destroy the party. Donald Trump is a loser. He is the first president since Hoover to lose the House, the Senate and the presidency in a single term. ..."
“I don’t see a big bunch of donors coming behind Trump at this point,” said Andy Sabin, a metal mogul who gave over $100,000 to Trump over the years and who opened his Hamptons estate for a Trump fundraiser in 2019. “I wouldn’t give Trump a fucking nickel, and that hasn’t changed. As we get closer Trump is going to see the handwriting on the wall. Now, he may not care if he fucks everybody up. Trump worries only about Trump, so he may not care if we lose as long as he has his day in the park, but I don’t know any donor that wants to give a red nickel to Trump.”
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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/02/09/gop-trump-2024-election-00081944
The GOP Is Starting to Plot Against Donald Trump
Republican Party donors and leaders are talking about how best to stop Trump from running away with the nomination again in 2024. But they don’t have a clear plan to stop him.... Eric Levine, a top GOP fundraiser who has been calling on the party to move on from Trump since the 2020 election and the uprising at the Capitol. “He is a metastasizing cancer who if he is not stopped is going to destroy the party. Donald Trump is a loser. He is the first president since Hoover to lose the House, the Senate and the presidency in a single term. ..."
“I don’t see a big bunch of donors coming behind Trump at this point,” said Andy Sabin, a metal mogul who gave over $100,000 to Trump over the years and who opened his Hamptons estate for a Trump fundraiser in 2019. “I wouldn’t give Trump a fucking nickel, and that hasn’t changed. As we get closer Trump is going to see the handwriting on the wall. Now, he may not care if he fucks everybody up. Trump worries only about Trump, so he may not care if we lose as long as he has his day in the park, but I don’t know any donor that wants to give a red nickel to Trump.”
...@Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/02/09/gop-trump-2024-election-00081944
The GOP Is Starting to Plot Against Donald Trump
He is (self) damaged goods. This doesn't surprise me at all.
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The pill says DeSantis lead Trump, but Trump will win the nomination if there is just one additional candidate entering the field and splitting the vote.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/18/michigan-gop-chair-karamo-trump/
LANSING, Mich. — Republicans here, reeling from a midterm election rout that many blamed on the influence of former president Donald Trump, responded Saturday by spurning the former president’s choice for state party chair — and choosing someone even more extreme.
Kristina Karamo, who refused to concede her 14-point loss for secretary of state in 2022, beat former attorney general candidate Matt DePerno, who had Trump’s endorsement, in three rounds of contentious voting. The chaotic 11-hour convention, featuring a rowdy standoff over voting procedures and 10 candidates who all ran under a pro-Trump banner, left no doubt that the bulk of the party’s activists in this key battleground state remain firmly committed to election denial and showed no interest in moderating their message to appeal to the political center.
“Conceding to a fraudulent person is agreeing with the fraud, which I will not do,” Karamo said to cheers in her campaign speech on Saturday.
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The Montana GOP kicked a former RNC Chair and former two-term Governor out of the Republican Party.
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https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/rnc-debate-young-americas-foundation-rcna79574
The RNC announced the GOP primary debate schedule, and immediately MAGA-land cries foul, claiming the RNC is stacking the deck against Trump.
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@George-K Interesting article.
One of the things in the headline and I think that @jolly has brought up when talking about what is believed to be positives for Presdient Trump is the # of judges done by him.
It is interesting that President Biden has actually appointed MORE judges than President Trump at equal times of their president cycle
"President Joe Biden is outpacing his predecessor in the number of federal judge appointees installed during his tenure.
As of Sept. 20, Biden had notched 83 federal judges confirmed by the Senate. At this point in his presidency, Donald Trump had 69 appointees confirmed, according to NBC News. If continued at this pace, Biden is on track to beat Trump's historic number of appointees."
That could obvisouly slow down if the Republicans win the Senate.
@taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@George-K Interesting article.
One of the things in the headline and I think that @jolly has brought up when talking about what is believed to be positives for Presdient Trump is the # of judges done by him.
It is interesting that President Biden has actually appointed MORE judges than President Trump at equal times of their president cycle
"President Joe Biden is outpacing his predecessor in the number of federal judge appointees installed during his tenure.
As of Sept. 20, Biden had notched 83 federal judges confirmed by the Senate. At this point in his presidency, Donald Trump had 69 appointees confirmed, according to NBC News. If continued at this pace, Biden is on track to beat Trump's historic number of appointees."
That could obvisouly slow down if the Republicans win the Senate.
There's a reason for that, but that's another thread.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/21/trump-values-voter-wing-gop-00093175
The headline is:
Trump killed the ‘values voter’ wing of the GOP. It isn’t coming back in 2024.
On the eve of a Christian cattle call in Iowa, the two 2024 contenders who talk the most about their faith aren’t gaining traction.Largely by the 'values voters' they are talking about the Evangelicals. The gist of it is that, since Trump came along, the Evangelicals care less about the candidate's faith and more about the candidate fighting their cultural wars.
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Former Attorney General Barr
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3990804-barr-trump-will-deliver-chaos-and-horror-show/
“If you believe in his policies, what he’s advertising as his policies, he’s the last person who could actually execute them and achieve them,” Barr said of Trump at an event in Cleveland. “He does not have the discipline.”
When pressed further, Barr claimed his former boss doesn’t have “the ability for strategic thinking” or “setting priorities.”
“It is a horror show when he’s left to his own devices,” Barr said. “And so, you may want his policies, but Trump will not deliver Trump policies.”
“He will deliver chaos and, if anything, lead to a backlash that will set his policies much further back than they otherwise would be,” he added.
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Former Attorney General Barr
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3990804-barr-trump-will-deliver-chaos-and-horror-show/
“If you believe in his policies, what he’s advertising as his policies, he’s the last person who could actually execute them and achieve them,” Barr said of Trump at an event in Cleveland. “He does not have the discipline.”
When pressed further, Barr claimed his former boss doesn’t have “the ability for strategic thinking” or “setting priorities.”
“It is a horror show when he’s left to his own devices,” Barr said. “And so, you may want his policies, but Trump will not deliver Trump policies.”
“He will deliver chaos and, if anything, lead to a backlash that will set his policies much further back than they otherwise would be,” he added.
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Also Barr:
“Who did I want determining the direction of the Supreme Court for years to come: Trump or Hillary Clinton? The question was not close. On this basis alone, I would crawl over broken glass to the polls to vote for Trump.
Once Trump won the nomination, the media, after fawning over him during the primaries, suddenly discovered his character flaws, which they now suggested made him unfit for office. I did not know enough about him to make firm judgments about all aspects of his character, but I did not see anything at the time I felt disqualifying. The country should aspire to elect leaders of high moral character, to be sure. But the significance of a candidate’s moral strengths and weaknesses has to be judged in relation to all the other attributes that person would bring to the office in the context of the time in which he’s running—together with his policy views and leadership skills. In our age, the electorate seems to put less stock in character, as I learned sadly when it replaced George H. W. Bush with Bill Clinton. Many of our past leaders, including some idolized by the Left even today, are known to have had deep moral failings. Trump certainly had his share of them.
One important point, though, was that those failings were not as hidden as they usually are in political leaders. In Trump’s case, the failings were close to the surface—mostly on full display. Trump was not as much two-faced as full-on frontal: what you saw is pretty much what you got. Many people have attributed his flaws to a deep narcissism. This would not surprise me—it is a common malady in our age, especially among celebrities, political and otherwise.”
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/11/christie-trump-cnn-putin-00096393
Chris Christie calls Trump a 'coward' and a 'puppet of Putin' after CNN town hall.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/11/christie-trump-cnn-putin-00096393
Chris Christie calls Trump a 'coward' and a 'puppet of Putin' after CNN town hall.
@Axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/11/christie-trump-cnn-putin-00096393
Chris Christie calls Trump a 'coward' and a 'puppet of Putin' after CNN town hall.
Trump's views on Ukraine are very disappointing, but not exactly surprising. I guess he's stopped trying to be like Churchill and decided to emulate his predecessors instead.
