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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    Supposed to have a game with my group today, and I think I'll show up but I'm bowing the fuck out. I'd much rather we play a different system but I doubt everyone else even cares all that much.

    Which I get. Everyone's got a different threshold for scumminess in the shit they buy and use, and those lines are informed more by personal preferences, utility, the number viable alternatives and a bunch of other things that have to do with ethics but I don't care I'm fucking done.

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    @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

    Supposed to have a game with my group today, and I think I'll show up but I'm bowing the fuck out. I'd much rather we play a different system but I doubt everyone else even cares all that much.

    Which I get. Everyone's got a different threshold for scumminess in the shit they buy and use, and those lines are informed more by personal preferences, utility, the number viable alternatives and a bunch of other things that have to do with ethics but I don't care I'm fucking done.

    I admire your principled stand. I hope the group isn’t too disappointed.

    Education is extremely important.

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      @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

      Supposed to have a game with my group today, and I think I'll show up but I'm bowing the fuck out. I'd much rather we play a different system but I doubt everyone else even cares all that much.

      Which I get. Everyone's got a different threshold for scumminess in the shit they buy and use, and those lines are informed more by personal preferences, utility, the number viable alternatives and a bunch of other things that have to do with ethics but I don't care I'm fucking done.

      I admire your principled stand. I hope the group isn’t too disappointed.

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      @Horace said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

      Supposed to have a game with my group today, and I think I'll show up but I'm bowing the fuck out. I'd much rather we play a different system but I doubt everyone else even cares all that much.

      Which I get. Everyone's got a different threshold for scumminess in the shit they buy and use, and those lines are informed more by personal preferences, utility, the number viable alternatives and a bunch of other things that have to do with ethics but I don't care I'm fucking done.

      I admire your principled stand. I hope the group isn’t too disappointed.

      I wish I could say it was that, but really it just killed the fun for me. I hate looking at the books.

      Fortunately, we decided to fumble our way through Pathfinder 2e.

      Please love yourself.

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        Aqua Letifer
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        #45

        Hell no. Absolutely no fucking way.

        5EF6CCA6-57A5-4613-9D53-55491D791C49.jpeg

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          Hell no. Absolutely no fucking way.

          5EF6CCA6-57A5-4613-9D53-55491D791C49.jpeg

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

          Hell no. Absolutely no fucking way.

          5EF6CCA6-57A5-4613-9D53-55491D791C49.jpeg

          If we can give AIs social security numbers, we could give them jobs and incomes. Then they could have hobbies. They could play D&D with other AIs, and they would buy each new source book as it came out. Which would also be written by AIs.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

            Hell no. Absolutely no fucking way.

            5EF6CCA6-57A5-4613-9D53-55491D791C49.jpeg

            If we can give AIs social security numbers, we could give them jobs and incomes. Then they could have hobbies. They could play D&D with other AIs, and they would buy each new source book as it came out. Which would also be written by AIs.

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            @Horace said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

            Hell no. Absolutely no fucking way.

            5EF6CCA6-57A5-4613-9D53-55491D791C49.jpeg

            If we can give AIs social security numbers, we could give them jobs and incomes. Then they could have hobbies. They could play D&D with other AIs, and they would buy each new source book as it came out. Which would also be written by AIs.

            If you want to make D&D into WoW then just fucking do it already, Wizards.

            These details will be released Tues night/Wed, apparently.

            I'm not so much into the drama for its own sake as I'm already pretty much over the system. But the important takeaway here—which I'm sure will be completely ignored—is where we're headed more generally. I'm interested to see the audience reaction to gauge how many others out there value human relationships and how many are pining for a Wall-E hellscape.

            Please love yourself.

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              #48

              A better, human response today:

              https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1428-a-working-conversation-about-the-open-game-license

              They've managed to slap back the shadowy figure with the entangled ego from any indirect presence in this message. Good move.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                A better, human response today:

                https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1428-a-working-conversation-about-the-open-game-license

                They've managed to slap back the shadowy figure with the entangled ego from any indirect presence in this message. Good move.

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                Aqua Letifer
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                @Horace said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                A better, human response today:

                https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1428-a-working-conversation-about-the-open-game-license

                They've managed to slap back the shadowy figure with the entangled ego from any indirect presence in this message. Good move.

                Fucking Kyle Brink has been working there for about 3 months now. He's been put there as a total patsy. Poor bastard.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  WE FUCKING DID IT!

                  Suck a bag of smoky tiefling balls, Chris Cao, you walking disappointment with more dick in your personality than your pants.

                  Choke on sweaty orc scrotum, Cynthia Williams, you fucking eight-dollar haircut of a human being.

                  Fuck you both right off!

                  A0CF7835-8BA5-4DD6-8F90-006AB5A37B28.jpeg

                  Link to video

                  Please love yourself.

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                    I hope you can rejoin your game now Aqua.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      I hope you can rejoin your game now Aqua.

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                      @Horace said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                      I hope you can rejoin your game now Aqua.

                      We already switched, so, fuck 'em!

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Link to video

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          Link to video

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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                          Link to video

                          DND Shorts got han solo. Good for him.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                            Link to video

                            DND Shorts got han solo. Good for him.

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                            @Horace said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                            Link to video

                            DND Shorts got han solo. Good for him.

                            Totally tracks, too. He was very reluctant to get involved, but WotC folks reached out to him (probably because he was well-known but no one had any ties to him so they couldn't track the source of the leaks). And he posted some questionable things here and there, but ultimately, yeah, he was a good guy.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @Horace said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                              Link to video

                              DND Shorts got han solo. Good for him.

                              Totally tracks, too. He was very reluctant to get involved, but WotC folks reached out to him (probably because he was well-known but no one had any ties to him so they couldn't track the source of the leaks). And he posted some questionable things here and there, but ultimately, yeah, he was a good guy.

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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                              @Horace said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                              Link to video

                              DND Shorts got han solo. Good for him.

                              Totally tracks, too. He was very reluctant to get involved, but WotC folks reached out to him (probably because he was well-known but no one had any ties to him so they couldn't track the source of the leaks). And he posted some questionable things here and there, but ultimately, yeah, he was a good guy.

                              Yes the rumors about WotC never reading any feedback was a faceplant, and well sniffed out by another youtuber I follow called TreantMonk. But his spirit was undampened by that misfire.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Interesting video from TreantMonk, talking about some of Kyle Brink's interviews with the D&D public. Brink is the face of the more modest and measured WOTC public relations after the disastrous "we both won" nonsense. What caught my eye was the part where he was talking to a black guy and someone of ambiguous gender on a zoom call. He was inquisitioned about the fact that he's a cis white male and that most of the power structure at WOTC were cis white males. He mentions that things are changing in that regard, and that people like him are "leaving the work force", and it can't happen soon enough, as far as he's concerned. He notes that he is "not the majority of the hobby" anymore. I guess that's the obligatory factually incorrect nonsense one must supply in one's public testaments to progressivism. It's like collateral when joining a cult.

                                ladies and gentlemen, that is the normal psychology of progressive white males these days. Abject disgust at themselves for the fact that they are cis white males, and a virtuous desire to exit the culture by any means necessary.

                                Maybe it would be less soul crushing for a guy like this, to just start sucking dick. Then at least he can have some self respect intellectually, as he allows himself to think honest thoughts, as a card carrying oppressed person.

                                Seriously, are progressive white females that awesome that guys have to sell their souls to get along with them? I'm pretty sure they're not. Actually, I'm pretty sure it would be torture to be in a relationship with one, and still expect to have your own opinions about anything.

                                The progressive testament in question starts at 12:40.

                                Link to video

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  Interesting video from TreantMonk, talking about some of Kyle Brink's interviews with the D&D public. Brink is the face of the more modest and measured WOTC public relations after the disastrous "we both won" nonsense. What caught my eye was the part where he was talking to a black guy and someone of ambiguous gender on a zoom call. He was inquisitioned about the fact that he's a cis white male and that most of the power structure at WOTC were cis white males. He mentions that things are changing in that regard, and that people like him are "leaving the work force", and it can't happen soon enough, as far as he's concerned. He notes that he is "not the majority of the hobby" anymore. I guess that's the obligatory factually incorrect nonsense one must supply in one's public testaments to progressivism. It's like collateral when joining a cult.

                                  ladies and gentlemen, that is the normal psychology of progressive white males these days. Abject disgust at themselves for the fact that they are cis white males, and a virtuous desire to exit the culture by any means necessary.

                                  Maybe it would be less soul crushing for a guy like this, to just start sucking dick. Then at least he can have some self respect intellectually, as he allows himself to think honest thoughts, as a card carrying oppressed person.

                                  Seriously, are progressive white females that awesome that guys have to sell their souls to get along with them? I'm pretty sure they're not. Actually, I'm pretty sure it would be torture to be in a relationship with one, and still expect to have your own opinions about anything.

                                  The progressive testament in question starts at 12:40.

                                  Link to video

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                                  @Horace said in Hey Horace (and other D&D folks):

                                  Interesting video from TreantMonk, talking about some of Kyle Brink's interviews with the D&D public. Brink is the face of the more modest and measured WOTC public relations after the disastrous "we both won" nonsense. What caught my eye was the part where he was talking to a black guy and someone of ambiguous gender on a zoom call. He was inquisitioned about the fact that he's a cis white male and that most of the power structure at WOTC were cis white males. He mentions that things are changing in that regard, and that people like him are "leaving the work force", and it can't happen soon enough, as far as he's concerned. He notes that he is "not the majority of the hobby" anymore. I guess that's the obligatory factually incorrect nonsense one must supply in one's public testaments to progressivism. It's like collateral when joining a cult.

                                  ladies and gentlemen, that is the normal psychology of progressive white males these days. Abject disgust at themselves for the fact that they are cis white males, and a virtuous desire to exit the culture by any means necessary.

                                  Maybe it would be less soul crushing for a guy like this, to just start sucking dick. Then at least he can have some self respect intellectually, as he allows himself to think honest thoughts, as a card carrying oppressed person.

                                  Seriously, are progressive white females that awesome that guys have to sell their souls to get along with them? I'm pretty sure they're not. Actually, I'm pretty sure it would be torture to be in a relationship with one, and still expect to have your own opinions about anything.

                                  The progressive testament in question starts at 12:40.

                                  Link to video

                                  Oh yeah, that's been making the rounds.

                                  Interestingly enough, because of all the good faith lost during the OGL debacle, it seems fans are more comfortable than you'd think calling bullshit on his shenanigans. Not at woke ideology more generally, but him in particular, which I suppose is still something.

                                  Please love yourself.

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