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Krugman can kiss my ass.

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Ok, but after he kisses your ass, do you disagree with the main substantive point of the article?

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    @jon-nyc said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

    Ok, but after he kisses your ass, do you disagree with the main substantive point of the article?

    One of his main substantive points is that disrespect for rural GOP voters is not real. A total fabrication. Maybe he needs to be educated about your theory that those voters are self-hating losers, acting out with petulant and destructive political views.

    In fairness, he substantiates his claim that the disrespect is not real, by saying those rural voters disrespect his tribe. In other words, it’s not true that A disrespects B, because B disrespects A. From this, he concludes that A disrespecting B does not withstand scrutiny.

    Meanwhile, his intellectual ramblings continue to establish the complete lack of serious thinkers in the tribal left. To come close to a serious thinker, you have to go with erstwhile lefties who consider the current tribal narratives repellant. Your Sam Harrises. Who will inevitably be accused of having right leaning sympathies. One step away from getting on the southern poverty law list.

    Education is extremely important.

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      I think there's plenty of disrespect for rural people, as well as for urban people. People talk in stereotypical terms about both groups.

      Those of us who live in the 'burbs can happily look down on both groups, secure in the knowledge that we're better than all of them, despite not being able to fight, or for that matter fix anything with our hands.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        I think there's plenty of disrespect for rural people, as well as for urban people. People talk in stereotypical terms about both groups.

        Those of us who live in the 'burbs can happily look down on both groups, secure in the knowledge that we're better than all of them, despite not being able to fight, or for that matter fix anything with our hands.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

        I think there's plenty of disrespect for rural people, as well as for urban people. People talk in stereotypical terms about both groups.

        Those of us who live in the 'burbs can happily look down on both groups, secure in the knowledge that we're better than all of them, despite not being able to fight, or for that matter fix anything with our hands.

        Every single one of your fucking ugly community centers are the definition of uninspiring, too. Just sayin'.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

          I think there's plenty of disrespect for rural people, as well as for urban people. People talk in stereotypical terms about both groups.

          Those of us who live in the 'burbs can happily look down on both groups, secure in the knowledge that we're better than all of them, despite not being able to fight, or for that matter fix anything with our hands.

          Every single one of your fucking ugly community centers are the definition of uninspiring, too. Just sayin'.

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

          … fucking ugly community centers are the definition of uninspiring, too.

          Got pics?

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

            … fucking ugly community centers are the definition of uninspiring, too.

            Got pics?

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            @Axtremus said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

            … fucking ugly community centers are the definition of uninspiring, too.

            Got pics?

            Well, since you asked, no. No I do not.

            Please love yourself.

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              I think he's talking about the community center in my neighborhood, next to the pool that's open three months a year.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Ok, but after he kisses your ass, do you disagree with the main substantive point of the article?

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                @jon-nyc said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

                Ok, but after he kisses your ass, do you disagree with the main substantive point of the article?

                Yes, I do.

                Most Demonrats think rural people are ignorant, slobbering, in-bred idiots. We're MAGATs, the people that need to ridiculed for the rubes they are.

                It doesn't matter that we're growing the food that most city folks are eating and we're doing it with college educated farmers running GPS driven tractors and quarter-million dollar combines. OTOH, maybe we are stupid...Who in their right mind would risk 2-4 million dollars in equipment notes and production loans, not knowing whether the seed will rot in the ground, have a great growing season, burn up from drought or what the price will be at harvest time.

                Or that families are making a living on a lot less money than their urban cousins...Remember, a guy and his wife, along with two kids, can gross $88k of family income and still manage to live a pretty decent middle class lifestyle. Yes, it's cheaper out in the sticks, but people know how to stretch a dollar farther, too.

                Are there some dumb people out here? Sure. Some lazy ones, too. But no more than what you'd find in the city.

                Where we do differ quite a bit, is in liberal attitudes. No, we don't want drag queen story hour. We don't need 47 genders. We have livestock and we're pretty sure how many genders there are. We have no confusion about pronouns. And we don't need some rainbow warrior telling us we're racist, homophobic, troglodytes because we think that it was Adam and Eve in the Garden and not Adam and Steve.

                We're not going to agree on killing babies anytime soon, either. Most think it immoral and just wrong, at any stage. We're out here delivering breached calves, trying to keep a sow from smashing her piglets or working to keep a sick goat alive. We understand the circle of life and we understand just how easily life can be snuffed out, and why we shouldn't do so, except as a necessity.

                So, Mr. Kruger, until you understand that we are conservative people, with deeply held beliefs that you love to ridicule, I don't think you're assuaging any rage, any time soon.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  I think there's plenty of disrespect for rural people, as well as for urban people. People talk in stereotypical terms about both groups.

                  Those of us who live in the 'burbs can happily look down on both groups, secure in the knowledge that we're better than all of them, despite not being able to fight, or for that matter fix anything with our hands.

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                  @Doctor-Phibes

                  I think there's plenty of disrespect for rural people, as well as for urban people. People talk in stereotypical terms about both groups.

                  No different here. No one group can claim the monopoly on being the victim. It’s a duality that has existed since Christ was a cowboy.

                  Elbows up!

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                    One can pull a 'both sides are equal' and be done with the whole argument, or one can observe the culture and try to describe the respect, or lack thereof, from either side to the other, in a way that isn't immediately obvious as tribal bs.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      One can pull a 'both sides are equal' and be done with the whole argument, or one can observe the culture and try to describe the respect, or lack thereof, from either side to the other, in a way that isn't immediately obvious as tribal bs.

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                      @Horace said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

                      One can pull a 'both sides are equal' and be done with the whole argument, or one can observe the culture and try to describe the respect, or lack thereof, from either side to the other, in a way that isn't immediately obvious as tribal bs.

                      Alternatively we can try and find things we share rather than focus on what separates us.

                      I know, kumbaya and all that, but if people actually meet and hang out with the folks they might otherwise ridicule or despise, it might surprise them to find common ground rather than stereotype. We don’t learn a whole lot of that on the internet

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @Horace said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

                        One can pull a 'both sides are equal' and be done with the whole argument, or one can observe the culture and try to describe the respect, or lack thereof, from either side to the other, in a way that isn't immediately obvious as tribal bs.

                        Alternatively we can try and find things we share rather than focus on what separates us.

                        I know, kumbaya and all that, but if people actually meet and hang out with the folks they might otherwise ridicule or despise, it might surprise them to find common ground rather than stereotype. We don’t learn a whole lot of that on the internet

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

                        @Horace said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

                        One can pull a 'both sides are equal' and be done with the whole argument, or one can observe the culture and try to describe the respect, or lack thereof, from either side to the other, in a way that isn't immediately obvious as tribal bs.

                        Alternatively we can try and find things we share rather than focus on what separates us.

                        I know, kumbaya and all that, but if people actually meet and hang out with the folks they might otherwise ridicule or despise, it might surprise them to find common ground rather than stereotype. We don’t learn a whole lot of that on the internet

                        That's why we should have Universal Service.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          I thought the main point, at least based on the time he spent on it, was the net flow of federal resources from urbanized areas to rural.

                          You were warned.

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                            Tell Mr. Krugman if he'll just let all those Red Counties succeed from the Union, the Feds can keep their money.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Tell Mr. Krugman if he'll just let all those Red Counties succeed from the Union, the Feds can keep their money.

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                              @Jolly said in Krugman can kiss my ass.:

                              Tell Mr. Krugman if he'll just let all those Red Counties succeed from the Union, the Feds can keep their money.

                              They'll need it to cover the import tariffs on food.

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