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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #211

    That's part of the story, but it ain't all of it.

    Buy a bag of feed lately? A gallon of diesel?

    It's not just the flu driving prices. But if you look at the parrots we have in the MSM, that seems to be the chant.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #212

      I just looked at our expenses, year-to-year. We've been very consistent with respect to these items - and we haven't really changed our spending habits. We still order out, drive, and heat/cool the same way as we did in 2021.

      Screenshot 2023-01-15 at 7.23.52 AM.png

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @LuFins-Dad

        The top item, egg, the extraordinary price hike is attributed not to general inflation but to an avian flu outbreak:

        https://www.kktv.com/2023/01/05/whats-causing-dramatic-increase-egg-prices/

        LuFins DadL Offline
        LuFins DadL Offline
        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #213

        @Axtremus said in Inflation:

        @LuFins-Dad

        The top item, egg, the extraordinary price hike is attributed not to general inflation but to an avian flu outbreak:

        https://www.kktv.com/2023/01/05/whats-causing-dramatic-increase-egg-prices/

        As @Jolly states, it’s part of the increase, but not the whole story or even half. Farm wages are up about 18% over the past two years, and new labor requirements have necessitated larger labor forces in agriculture.

        Everybody keeps ignoring the effect that wage inflation is having on the overall picture. The Fed can only suppress demand so far…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Axtremus said in Inflation:

          @LuFins-Dad

          The top item, egg, the extraordinary price hike is attributed not to general inflation but to an avian flu outbreak:

          https://www.kktv.com/2023/01/05/whats-causing-dramatic-increase-egg-prices/

          As @Jolly states, it’s part of the increase, but not the whole story or even half. Farm wages are up about 18% over the past two years, and new labor requirements have necessitated larger labor forces in agriculture.

          Everybody keeps ignoring the effect that wage inflation is having on the overall picture. The Fed can only suppress demand so far…

          AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #214

          @LuFins-Dad @Jolly Look at the chart @LuFins-Dad posted a few posts back, price of egg rose 60% while price of poultry rose only 12%. That should tell you that common factors like fuel cost, feed cost, and farm labor wages are the smaller influences. The factor that can explain the large divergence between egg price and poultry price is an avian flu that wiped out a lot of egg-laying hens but not the poultry meat producing chicken.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @LuFins-Dad @Jolly Look at the chart @LuFins-Dad posted a few posts back, price of egg rose 60% while price of poultry rose only 12%. That should tell you that common factors like fuel cost, feed cost, and farm labor wages are the smaller influences. The factor that can explain the large divergence between egg price and poultry price is an avian flu that wiped out a lot of egg-laying hens but not the poultry meat producing chicken.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #215

            @Axtremus said in Inflation:

            price of poultry rose only 12%.

            "Only..."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Axtremus said in Inflation:

              price of poultry rose only 12%.

              "Only..."

              AxtremusA Offline
              AxtremusA Offline
              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #216

              @George-K said in Inflation:

              @Axtremus said in Inflation:

              price of poultry rose only 12%.

              "Only..."

              Could have been much worse if the avian flu hit the poultry meat producing chicken population too.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @LuFins-Dad @Jolly Look at the chart @LuFins-Dad posted a few posts back, price of egg rose 60% while price of poultry rose only 12%. That should tell you that common factors like fuel cost, feed cost, and farm labor wages are the smaller influences. The factor that can explain the large divergence between egg price and poultry price is an avian flu that wiped out a lot of egg-laying hens but not the poultry meat producing chicken.

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #217

                @Axtremus said in Inflation:

                @LuFins-Dad @Jolly Look at the chart @LuFins-Dad posted a few posts back, price of egg rose 60% while price of poultry rose only 12%. That should tell you that common factors like fuel cost, feed cost, and farm labor wages are the smaller influences. The factor that can explain the large divergence between egg price and poultry price is an avian flu that wiped out a lot of egg-laying hens but not the poultry meat producing chicken.

                You’re basing your opinion on the belief that everything else are common factors. They aren’t. And if your reading comprehension skills would ever improve, you would note that both @Jolly and I acknowledge that the Avian Flu is part of the cause. We’re just pointing out that there’s a lot more to the story that you are ignoring.

                The Brad

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #218

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Axtremus said in Inflation:

                    @LuFins-Dad @Jolly Look at the chart @LuFins-Dad posted a few posts back, price of egg rose 60% while price of poultry rose only 12%. That should tell you that common factors like fuel cost, feed cost, and farm labor wages are the smaller influences. The factor that can explain the large divergence between egg price and poultry price is an avian flu that wiped out a lot of egg-laying hens but not the poultry meat producing chicken.

                    You’re basing your opinion on the belief that everything else are common factors. They aren’t. And if your reading comprehension skills would ever improve, you would note that both @Jolly and I acknowledge that the Avian Flu is part of the cause. We’re just pointing out that there’s a lot more to the story that you are ignoring.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #219

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

                    @Axtremus said in Inflation:

                    @LuFins-Dad @Jolly Look at the chart @LuFins-Dad posted a few posts back, price of egg rose 60% while price of poultry rose only 12%. That should tell you that common factors like fuel cost, feed cost, and farm labor wages are the smaller influences. The factor that can explain the large divergence between egg price and poultry price is an avian flu that wiped out a lot of egg-laying hens but not the poultry meat producing chicken.

                    You’re basing your opinion on the belief that everything else are common factors. They aren’t. And if your reading comprehension skills would ever improve, you would note that both @Jolly and I acknowledge that the Avian Flu is part of the cause. We’re just pointing out that there’s a lot more to the story that you are ignoring.

                    They wouldn't know the Truth, if it bit them in the ass.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                      #220

                      In other news, global economic crisis caused by American geriatric continues to enrage middle America.

                      Still, it could be worse. The British press are probably blaming it on Meghan Markle.

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #221

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                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #222

                          I'm so old that I remember the days when you threw eggs and toilet paper at the houses of people you hate.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #223

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                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #224

                              Just got back from the grocery store, I’ve never seen eggs this high.

                              FmnUtr8XEB0iNvm.jpeg

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • AxtremusA Offline
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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #225

                                https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/high-egg-prices-should-be-investigated-us-farm-group-says-2023-01-20/

                                Farm group calls for the FTC to investigate the pricing of eggs for signs of price gouging.

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                                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #226

                                  In the US at least, it appears that it has "turned the corner"

                                  https://www.statista.com/statistics/273418/unadjusted-monthly-inflation-rate-in-the-us/

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    #227

                                    https://www.wired.com/story/the-bird-flu-outbreak-has-taken-an-ominous-turn/

                                    The article is mainly about bird flu outbreak. Relevant to the price of egg is this snippet:

                                    ... the US, where 43 million laying hens were either killed by avian flu last year or slaughtered to prevent the disease from spreading. Those losses took out almost a third of the national flock of laying hens; according to the US Department of Agriculture, they cut into egg supplies so much that prices at the end of the year were 210 percent higher than at the end of 2021. ...

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #228

                                      Bidenavian Flu.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        https://www.wired.com/story/the-bird-flu-outbreak-has-taken-an-ominous-turn/

                                        The article is mainly about bird flu outbreak. Relevant to the price of egg is this snippet:

                                        ... the US, where 43 million laying hens were either killed by avian flu last year or slaughtered to prevent the disease from spreading. Those losses took out almost a third of the national flock of laying hens; according to the US Department of Agriculture, they cut into egg supplies so much that prices at the end of the year were 210 percent higher than at the end of 2021. ...

                                        JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #229

                                        @Axtremus said in Inflation:

                                        https://www.wired.com/story/the-bird-flu-outbreak-has-taken-an-ominous-turn/

                                        The article is mainly about bird flu outbreak. Relevant to the price of egg is this snippet:

                                        ... the US, where 43 million laying hens were either killed by avian flu last year or slaughtered to prevent the disease from spreading. Those losses took out almost a third of the national flock of laying hens; according to the US Department of Agriculture, they cut into egg supplies so much that prices at the end of the year were 210 percent higher than at the end of 2021. ...

                                        Uh, you kinda forgot about the increases in diesel fuel and feed didn't you?

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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