Classified files found at President's former office...
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Personally I think that's a bad read.
So far it seems like the cases are vastly different. Shuold the gap close, which seems unlikely, I think the pressure would go the other way. (i.e. more pressure to appoint a special prosecutor for Biden)
@jon-nyc said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
cases are vastly different.
Differences I see include the fact that Biden's staff turned them over almost immediately after discovering them. That's vastly different, to be sure.
OTOH, what were they doing there to begin with? Biden claims he has no knowledge of how that happened. The buck stops elsewhere, I guess.
Also, they've been there for years. How does that happen? Did he or his staff move them when he was VP?
Politically, the cases are different, but from a legal standpoint, the mishandling of government documents, I'd say they're pretty close.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@jon-nyc said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
cases are vastly different.
Differences I see include the fact that Biden's staff turned them over almost immediately after discovering them. That's vastly different, to be sure.
OTOH, what were they doing there to begin with? Biden claims he has no knowledge of how that happened. The buck stops elsewhere, I guess.
Also, they've been there for years. How does that happen? Did he or his staff move them when he was VP?
Politically, the cases are different, but from a legal standpoint, the mishandling of government documents, I'd say they're pretty close.
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@jon-nyc said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
cases are vastly different.
Differences I see include the fact that Biden's staff turned them over almost immediately after discovering them. That's vastly different, to be sure.
OTOH, what were they doing there to begin with? Biden claims he has no knowledge of how that happened. The buck stops elsewhere, I guess.
Also, they've been there for years. How does that happen? Did he or his staff move them when he was VP?
Politically, the cases are different, but from a legal standpoint, the mishandling of government documents, I'd say they're pretty close.
@George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Politically, the cases are different, but from a legal standpoint, the mishandling of government documents, I'd say they're pretty close.
Your framing seems a little bit “just so”.
Why not “from a legal standpoint, the Obstruction of Justice and lying to the feds, I’d say they’re pretty different.”
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Not sure. Note that they didn’t find the docs in Biden’s sock and underwear drawer.
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@jon-nyc said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
cases are vastly different.
Differences I see include the fact that Biden's staff turned them over almost immediately after discovering them. That's vastly different, to be sure.
OTOH, what were they doing there to begin with? Biden claims he has no knowledge of how that happened. The buck stops elsewhere, I guess.
Also, they've been there for years. How does that happen? Did he or his staff move them when he was VP?
Politically, the cases are different, but from a legal standpoint, the mishandling of government documents, I'd say they're pretty close.
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Borowitz Report:
"Trump Claims That Biden Having Classified Documents Is Worse Because He Reads."
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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Borowitz Report:
"Trump Claims That Biden Having Classified Documents Is Worse Because He Reads."
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Borowitz Report:
"Trump Claims That Biden Having Classified Documents Is Worse Because He Reads."
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But wait! There's MORE
Aides to President Joe Biden have discovered at least one additional batch of classified documents in a location separate from the Washington office he used after leaving the Obama administration, according to a person familiar with the matter.
Since November, after the discovery of documents with classified markings in his former office, Biden aides have been searching for any additional classified materials that might be in other locations he used, said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide details about the ongoing inquiry.
The White House did not return a request for comment. The Justice Department had no comment.
The initial discovery of classified documents in an office used by Biden after his vice presidency was first reported on Monday by CBS News.
The classification level, number and precise location of the additional documents was not immediately clear. It also was not immediately clear when the additional documents were discovered and if the search for any other classified materials Biden may have from the Obama administration is complete.
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Now three locations: also in the garage adjacent to the house.
Meanwhile AG Garland has appointed a special counsel:
Attorney General Merrick Garland has appointed a special counsel to investigate the handling of classified documents found at a former office and the Delaware home of President Biden — ratcheting up the high stakes and potential consequences surrounding national security cases that have now ensnared both the current president and his predecessor.
Garland made the announcement Thursday at the Justice Department, tapping Robert K. Hur, a former U.S. Attorney in Maryland who also served as a senior Justice Department official during the Trump administration.
It is the second time in two months Garland has named a special counsel to investigate the handling of classified materials found in the home and office of a current or former commander-in-chief. In November, he assigned veteran federal prosecutor Jack Smith to oversee day-to-day operations of the criminal probe of former president Donald Trump’s handling of classified documents after leaving the White House; Smith is also managing aspects of the Justice Dept.’s investigation of the events leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol that are most closely linked to Trump.
A special counsel has more independence from Justice Department leaders than other federal prosecutors, but still ultimately answers to the attorney general.
The Biden documents special counsel will examine the discovery of at least two sets of classified material. About 10 documents from Biden’s time as vice president were found Nov. 2 at the Washington-based Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, an institute in Biden started after leaving the vice presidency in 2017.Remember, "intent" is a sufficient reason to dismiss all this falderol.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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It is difficult to believe that executives pull their own files to be taken off site. I’m wondering if both these events were precipitated by staffers without the skills to determine what could and could not be taken. It may be that all predecessors had similar lots, we just did not have as many vultures waiting to swoop,
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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It is difficult to believe that executives pull their own files to be taken off site. I’m wondering if both these events were precipitated by staffers without the skills to determine what could and could not be taken. It may be that all predecessors had similar lots, we just did not have as many vultures waiting to swoop,
@Mik said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
It may be that all predecessors had similar lots, we just did not have as many vultures waiting to swoop,
That's the current deflection. How can anyone be so irresponsible, so careless?
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In fairness, I am skeptical about Trump's claim that he declassified the papers found at Mar-A-Lago.
But still....
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In fairness, I am skeptical about Trump's claim that he declassified the papers found at Mar-A-Lago.
But still....
@George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
In fairness, I am skeptical about Trump's claim that he declassified the papers found at Mar-A-Lago.
It doesn't matter, according to some people. Just thinking about declassifying them whilst being President is enough.
It's a bit like the idea that committing adultery with people in your mind is as bad as actually having sex with them.
Complete bullshit, in other words.I had teh sex with 9 million wimmenz.Anywho......
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Now three locations: also in the garage adjacent to the house.
Meanwhile AG Garland has appointed a special counsel:
Attorney General Merrick Garland has appointed a special counsel to investigate the handling of classified documents found at a former office and the Delaware home of President Biden — ratcheting up the high stakes and potential consequences surrounding national security cases that have now ensnared both the current president and his predecessor.
Garland made the announcement Thursday at the Justice Department, tapping Robert K. Hur, a former U.S. Attorney in Maryland who also served as a senior Justice Department official during the Trump administration.
It is the second time in two months Garland has named a special counsel to investigate the handling of classified materials found in the home and office of a current or former commander-in-chief. In November, he assigned veteran federal prosecutor Jack Smith to oversee day-to-day operations of the criminal probe of former president Donald Trump’s handling of classified documents after leaving the White House; Smith is also managing aspects of the Justice Dept.’s investigation of the events leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol that are most closely linked to Trump.
A special counsel has more independence from Justice Department leaders than other federal prosecutors, but still ultimately answers to the attorney general.
The Biden documents special counsel will examine the discovery of at least two sets of classified material. About 10 documents from Biden’s time as vice president were found Nov. 2 at the Washington-based Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, an institute in Biden started after leaving the vice presidency in 2017.Remember, "intent" is a sufficient reason to dismiss all this falderol.
@George-K said in Classified files found at President's former office...:
Now three locations: also in the garage adjacent to the house.
Please tell me they found them in the glovebox of his T-Top Trans-Am…Please!
