Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”
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I wouldn't want to be the poor sod teaching that course.
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WSJ today:
The Campaign to Re-Educate Jordan Peterson
For speaking his mind, the psychologist could lose his license.
You would think Canadians had learned by now not to tell Jordan Peterson what to say. The psychology professor became an internet sensation in 2016 after arguing that Canadian legislation amounted to “compelled speech” on gender pronouns. Now the College of Psychologists of Ontario is demanding that Mr. Peterson acknowledge he “lacked professionalism” in public statements and undergo a “coaching program” of remedial education.
The College of Psychologists, the profession’s governing body in Ontario, appointed an investigator in March to examine complaints about Mr. Peterson’s comments on Twitter and the popular Joe Rogan podcast. On Nov. 22, the College’s panel released a decision. Per images provided by Mr. Peterson, the panel ruled: “The comments at issue appear to undermine the public trust in the profession as a whole, and raise questions about your ability to carry out your responsibilities as a psychologist.”
What are these comments? Calling Elliot Page, the transgender actor, by his former name, “Ellen,” and the pronoun “her,” on Twitter. Calling an adviser to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau a “prik.” A sarcastic crack at antigrowth environmentalists for not caring that their energy policies lead to more deaths of poor Third World children.
Calling a former client “vindictive.” Objecting to a Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover of a plus-size model: “Sorry. Not Beautiful. And no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that.” In Canada even offenses begin with “sorry.”
“The impact risk in this case is significant,” the panel found, because the comments “may cause harm.” It counseled Mr. Peterson that coaching would help “mitigate any risks to the public.” The College of Psychologists declined to comment on the case, citing confidentiality.
Mr. Peterson responded sensibly: “Who exactly was harmed, how, when, to what degree, and how was that harm measured”? He says there have been about a dozen formal complaints since 2017, each one demanding a formal reply. One complainant cited Mr. Peterson’s Twitter response to a critic worried about overpopulation: “You’re free to leave at any point.” Mr. Peterson thinks the investigations aren’t about mitigating harm but preventing free expression, and that “the process is the punishment,” giving online detractors an effective way to badger him.
Professional bodies are supposed to ensure that practitioners are competent, not enforce political orthodoxies or act as language police outside the office. But that’s the trend in Western medical associations and beyond. The Law Society of Ontario had pushed a mandatory diversity pledge for all lawyers until a members’ revolt took over the board and nixed the pledge in 2019. At the time, an Ontario lawyer objected to the “ever-expanding mission to socially engineer the profession.”
Sounds like an issue of id, ego and superego. You could ask a psychologist about it.
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I dunno . . . being kicked out of this group might be a good thing.
I'm reminded of Groucho's joke about not caring to belong to a club that would have him as a member.
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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I dunno . . . being kicked out of this group might be a good thing.
I'm reminded of Groucho's joke about not caring to belong to a club that would have him as a member.
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I dunno . . . being kicked out of this group might be a good thing.
I'm reminded of Groucho's joke about not caring to belong to a club that would have him as a member.
@Catseye3 said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
I dunno . . . being kicked out of this group might be a good thing.
Having a clinical license revoked due to the politics someone holds isn't good. It's bad. You should be able to see why the implications are bigger than the incident.
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@Catseye3 said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
I dunno . . . being kicked out of this group might be a good thing.
Having a clinical license revoked due to the politics someone holds isn't good. It's bad. You should be able to see why the implications are bigger than the incident.
Agreed. Not sure if he has even been in clinic the past number of years. Too busy on the lecture circuit, then rehab then back to being a media persona on all topics including those the he has no clue such as international affairs and security.
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Agreed. Not sure if he has even been in clinic the past number of years. Too busy on the lecture circuit, then rehab then back to being a media persona on all topics including those the he has no clue such as international affairs and security.
@Renauda said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Agreed. Not sure if he has even been in clinic the past number of years. Too busy on the lecture circuit, then rehab then back to being a media persona on all topics including those the he has no clue such as international affairs and security.
Yes, if he loses his license the irony is he'll be unable to talk about the stuff he really knows about and be free to pontificate at great length on all the things he doesn't.
I was only joking
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@Renauda said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Agreed. Not sure if he has even been in clinic the past number of years. Too busy on the lecture circuit, then rehab then back to being a media persona on all topics including those the he has no clue such as international affairs and security.
Yes, if he loses his license the irony is he'll be unable to talk about the stuff he really knows about and be free to pontificate at great length on all the things he doesn't.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Renauda said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Agreed. Not sure if he has even been in clinic the past number of years. Too busy on the lecture circuit, then rehab then back to being a media persona on all topics including those the he has no clue such as international affairs and security.
Yes, if he loses his license the irony is he'll be unable to talk about the stuff he really knows about and be free to pontificate at great length on all the things he doesn't.
I haven't heard him pontificate about stuff he knows nothing about. Where he errs, at times, IMO, is in giving platforms to people who allegedly know what they're talking about, but are off the deep end on those subjects.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Renauda said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Agreed. Not sure if he has even been in clinic the past number of years. Too busy on the lecture circuit, then rehab then back to being a media persona on all topics including those the he has no clue such as international affairs and security.
Yes, if he loses his license the irony is he'll be unable to talk about the stuff he really knows about and be free to pontificate at great length on all the things he doesn't.
I haven't heard him pontificate about stuff he knows nothing about. Where he errs, at times, IMO, is in giving platforms to people who allegedly know what they're talking about, but are off the deep end on those subjects.
@Horace said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
@Renauda said in Jordan Peterson to get “retrained?”:
Agreed. Not sure if he has even been in clinic the past number of years. Too busy on the lecture circuit, then rehab then back to being a media persona on all topics including those the he has no clue such as international affairs and security.
Yes, if he loses his license the irony is he'll be unable to talk about the stuff he really knows about and be free to pontificate at great length on all the things he doesn't.
I haven't heard him pontificate about stuff he knows nothing about. Where he errs, at times, IMO, is in giving platforms to people who allegedly know what they're talking about, but are off the deep end on those subjects.
Least he gives it a shot, I'd say.
