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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 17:43 last edited by
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    Seems like they wouldn’t need to delay a full week, they could replay it midweek if necessary.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • J jon-nyc
      4 Jan 2023, 17:43

      Seems like they wouldn’t need to delay a full week, they could replay it midweek if necessary.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 18:18 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

      Seems like they wouldn’t need to delay a full week, they could replay it midweek if necessary.

      By agreement with the NFLPA, they need at least 4 days between two games and need at least 7 days before a 3rd game. They couldn't have fit the week 17 game, week 18 game, and then been ready for WildCard Weekend by the 14th. It also would have put both teams at a competitive disadvantage for their Wildcard playoff games.

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        4 Jan 2023, 18:18

        @jon-nyc said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

        Seems like they wouldn’t need to delay a full week, they could replay it midweek if necessary.

        By agreement with the NFLPA, they need at least 4 days between two games and need at least 7 days before a 3rd game. They couldn't have fit the week 17 game, week 18 game, and then been ready for WildCard Weekend by the 14th. It also would have put both teams at a competitive disadvantage for their Wildcard playoff games.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 18:46 last edited by
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        @LuFins-Dad Yeah, but desperate times…. Maybe they’d negotiate a waiver. Seems like there are no great answers.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 18:48 last edited by
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          If they were to delay a week, would that have to change the Super Bowl date? I seem to recall a weekend off between the championship games and the super bowl.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • J jon-nyc
            4 Jan 2023, 18:48

            If they were to delay a week, would that have to change the Super Bowl date? I seem to recall a weekend off between the championship games and the super bowl.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 18:51 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

            If they were to delay a week, would that have to change the Super Bowl date?

            I don't see how that would be possible, given the gargantuan advertising/merchandising efforts, some of which are likely already in place.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              4 Jan 2023, 18:51

              @jon-nyc said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

              If they were to delay a week, would that have to change the Super Bowl date?

              I don't see how that would be possible, given the gargantuan advertising/merchandising efforts, some of which are likely already in place.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 18:52 last edited by
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              @Catseye3 Hence the question.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Mik
                wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 18:58 last edited by Mik 1 Apr 2023, 18:59
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                There is an extra week between the end of the playoffs and the Super Bowl. But to do that would mean that all 32 teams, all the fans with tickets, all travel arrangements, all the TV and radio, all the stadiums, all the involved vendors and employees would have to push everything back a week. It's just not feasible.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 19:00 last edited by jon-nyc 1 Apr 2023, 19:00
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                  True. It seems the only two feasible possibilities are to bend the rules for a midweek game or let the chips fall where they may based on percentages of unequal game counts.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 19:09 last edited by Horace 1 Apr 2023, 19:14
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                    If he doesn't make it, they should replace the super bowl halftime show with his funeral. Just to keep everything in perspective.

                    The reaction is so arbitrary. I am very sure everybody involved in dealing with the fallout, is looking sideways at everybody else, putting their finger to the wind, trying to gauge at what point we move on in a unemotional manner and enjoy football, without the downer scaffolding of pretending to care about this man's life way more than anybody but his friends and family actually do. A strong emotional reaction to watching a man almost die on the field, in the moment, is not actual caring, and it does not last. How many hundreds of Jim Kellys are out there with pathetic qualities of life, as inside their skulls is the brain of a demented 100 year old? Not to mention the physical deterioration. All because of this game. But that's out of sight, and out of mind. This one incident is bringing an entire season to its knees, because everybody's reaction is on trial.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      4 Jan 2023, 18:48

                      If they were to delay a week, would that have to change the Super Bowl date? I seem to recall a weekend off between the championship games and the super bowl.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 19:15 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                      If they were to delay a week, would that have to change the Super Bowl date? I seem to recall a weekend off between the championship games and the super bowl.

                      There is a "bye week" between the Conference Championships and the Superbowl. They could go ahead and move the "bye week" up and allow the Bengals and Bills to play. The league is likely just deciding whether it's worth it or if they could get away not playing the game.

                      My best guess? They are making no decision until after this week's games to see whether they really even need to make that decision. If the Bengals and Chiefs win and the Bills lose, then there's not really a strong need to play that game. If the Bills win, however, there will be a strong need no matter what else happens. The problem with this approach, however, is it will change the way coaches approach the last week and when/if they rest players.

                      Either way, there's going to be bitching. A LOT of bitching.

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                        4 Jan 2023, 18:58

                        There is an extra week between the end of the playoffs and the Super Bowl. But to do that would mean that all 32 teams, all the fans with tickets, all travel arrangements, all the TV and radio, all the stadiums, all the involved vendors and employees would have to push everything back a week. It's just not feasible.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 19:18 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                        There is an extra week between the end of the playoffs and the Super Bowl. But to do that would mean that all 32 teams, all the fans with tickets, all travel arrangements, all the TV and radio, all the stadiums, all the involved vendors and employees would have to push everything back a week. It's just not feasible.

                        If they moved everything back a week except the Superbowl, it wouldn't really change any of the Superbowl prep that's already in place. Nothing would be different.

                        The Conference Championships, Divisional Round, and WildCard would all be adjusted, but all of those are already set up to be flexible.

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                          4 Jan 2023, 19:09

                          If he doesn't make it, they should replace the super bowl halftime show with his funeral. Just to keep everything in perspective.

                          The reaction is so arbitrary. I am very sure everybody involved in dealing with the fallout, is looking sideways at everybody else, putting their finger to the wind, trying to gauge at what point we move on in a unemotional manner and enjoy football, without the downer scaffolding of pretending to care about this man's life way more than anybody but his friends and family actually do. A strong emotional reaction to watching a man almost die on the field, in the moment, is not actual caring, and it does not last. How many hundreds of Jim Kellys are out there with pathetic qualities of life, as inside their skulls is the brain of a demented 100 year old? Not to mention the physical deterioration. All because of this game. But that's out of sight, and out of mind. This one incident is bringing an entire season to its knees, because everybody's reaction is on trial.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 20:55 last edited by
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                          @Horace said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                          If he doesn't make it, they should replace the super bowl halftime show with his funeral.

                          And they could award points for death on the field.

                          A death is worth at least 6 points. A Cincinnati win 7-3, would become a 9-7 Buffalo win.

                          It could become a new tactic when things get desperate at the end of a game.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 4 Jan 2023, 22:25 last edited by Jolly 1 Apr 2023, 22:26
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                            The Bengals-Ravens game for Sunday will be played at 1 PM ET," said Field Yates.

                            Season looks like the game will not be played.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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                              4 Jan 2023, 22:25

                              The Bengals-Ravens game for Sunday will be played at 1 PM ET," said Field Yates.

                              Season looks like the game will not be played.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 01:49 last edited by
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                              @Jolly said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                              The Bengals-Ravens game for Sunday will be played at 1 PM ET," said Field Yates.

                              Season looks like the game will not be played.

                              Read my earlier post. They are going to play the week 18 games, cross their fingers, and hope the results mean the Cin/Buf game is rendered mostly irrelevant.

                              The Brad

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                                5 Jan 2023, 01:49

                                @Jolly said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                                The Bengals-Ravens game for Sunday will be played at 1 PM ET," said Field Yates.

                                Season looks like the game will not be played.

                                Read my earlier post. They are going to play the week 18 games, cross their fingers, and hope the results mean the Cin/Buf game is rendered mostly irrelevant.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 03:49 last edited by
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                                @LuFins-Dad I’m sure that would be my response if I were in charge. If there’s a chance the problem is going to go away in 4 days, wait it out.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 16:13 last edited by
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                                  UC Medical personnel last night described Hamlin as 'neurologically intact'. Someone I know translated that to 'cognitively intact'. Not sure those two are the same thing.

                                  George? Bach?

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 16:58 last edited by Catseye3 1 May 2023, 17:00
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                                    It has also been reported -- I don't know by who, possibly a teammate -- that he opened his eyes last night. Also that he is obeying commands.

                                    Somebody clarified that "neurologically intact" means he's making movements under his own brainpower.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 17:56 last edited by
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                                      Our top restaurateur, Jeff Ruby, is catering diner for Hamlin's family every night. And it ain't PB&Js.

                                      https://www.fox19.com/2023/01/05/it-becomes-personal-me-jeff-ruby-caters-free-dinner-damar-hamlins-family/

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:47 last edited by Mik 1 May 2023, 18:50
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                                        He was conscious last night, able to follow commands and asked who won the game. Good sign.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 18:52 last edited by
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                                          But then he’s still on the vent, so….

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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