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The Asian Penalty

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  • George KG Offline
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    Systemic Racism in College Campuses

    You’re a student in your Senior year of high school applying to universities across the country. At 17 years old, it’s most likely the biggest change in your life so far. You have a solid GPA, stellar SAT/ACT test scores, and your extracurricular activities are numerous. You apply to top-ranked colleges like Harvard, Brown, and Berkeley. You ultimately get rejected, only to find out that the reason why you got rejected wasn’t because of your scores or volunteer work or a badly written essay, but because of your race. This is one result of affirmative action, a policy being enacted by most universities in the United States. On October 31st, the Supreme Court will be looking at two cases from Harvard and the University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill, in regard to affirmative action. What has been upheld for decades may no longer be the case if the court decides to strike down the constitutionality of affirmative action.

    In the Harvard lawsuit, the numbers show that Asian representation would be 50% higher if affirmative action were eliminated. In a 2009 Princeton study, Asian students were shown to be facing the odds three times more than similarly qualified white, six times more than similarly qualified Hispanics, and sixteen times as high as similarly qualified African-Americans.

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

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      Affirmative action makes Asians even stronger.

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        It strikes me as deeply immoral the way we discriminate against living, breathing human beings in service of an abstract statistic.

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          And here we see the effect of culture and parental presence on achievement. There is nothing we can ever do that will replace it.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            It strikes me as deeply immoral the way we discriminate against living, breathing human beings in service of an abstract statistic.

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            @jon-nyc said in The Asian Penalty:

            It strikes me as deeply immoral the way we discriminate against living, breathing human beings in service of an abstract statistic.

            Even if a policy is transparently, systematically inhuman and immoral, its heart can still be in the right place.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Systemic Racism in College Campuses

              You’re a student in your Senior year of high school applying to universities across the country. At 17 years old, it’s most likely the biggest change in your life so far. You have a solid GPA, stellar SAT/ACT test scores, and your extracurricular activities are numerous. You apply to top-ranked colleges like Harvard, Brown, and Berkeley. You ultimately get rejected, only to find out that the reason why you got rejected wasn’t because of your scores or volunteer work or a badly written essay, but because of your race. This is one result of affirmative action, a policy being enacted by most universities in the United States. On October 31st, the Supreme Court will be looking at two cases from Harvard and the University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill, in regard to affirmative action. What has been upheld for decades may no longer be the case if the court decides to strike down the constitutionality of affirmative action.

              In the Harvard lawsuit, the numbers show that Asian representation would be 50% higher if affirmative action were eliminated. In a 2009 Princeton study, Asian students were shown to be facing the odds three times more than similarly qualified white, six times more than similarly qualified Hispanics, and sixteen times as high as similarly qualified African-Americans.

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              @George-K said in The Asian Penalty:

              You apply to top-ranked colleges like Harvard, Brown, and Berkeley. You ultimately get rejected

              And ultimately the colleges will get rejected.

              The smart guys will establish their own institutes.

              The schools that favor skin color over achievement will be left with a nice skin variety and underachieving students.

              Harvard social engineers can look across the river into Boston to see how this happens.

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