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Still need anti-virus software?

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    kluurs
    wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 18:02 last edited by
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    [Article says no. (https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html) - at least for Windows 10 machines. Is Malwarebytes and Windows Defender sufficient? I've been using Norton and Malwarebytes - but thinking of dropping Norton.

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      Mik
      wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 18:05 last edited by
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      I detest Norton. Does not work and play well with others. been using Windows Defender and it seems quite up to the task.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Copper
        wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 18:40 last edited by
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        I used the free Windows Defender for a long time.

        I bought Norton in May of 2014 because Windows Defender did not find a virus that Norton did find. The virus kept trying to connect to some Russian web site.

        I have subscribed to Norton since then, I'm not sure if it is still worth it.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 19:04 last edited by
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          I only use windows defender. Very, very occasionally I scan with Malwarebytes, but as it's never found anything since Win 10 was brought in there's probably no need for that, either.

          I was only joking

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            Jolly
            wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 19:28 last edited by
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            I run Defender and Malwarebytes, because MB found a virus that Defender did not.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Klaus
              wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 19:31 last edited by
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              I've never used AV software in my life.

              I've never been infected by a computer virus either.

              I did program a virus once ages ago, in the mid 90s - as a programming exercise - but never released it into the wild.

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                Mik
                wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 20:41 last edited by
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                Henceforth Klaus will be known as Klovid.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 22:27 last edited by
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                  I'm actually still proud of one design feature of my virus. A virus at that time (MS DOS) was usually detectable by observing that it allocates memory. I had found a block of 512 bytes of memory occupied by the operating system that were usually unused (a part of the "interrupt vector table") where I could put my virus without any memory influence - the first "stealth virus" I knew of. The main challenge was to squeeze the code into 512 bytes, which necessitated hardcore assembly programming. Unfortunately, I didn't have any space left to program any harmful behavior - all the virus did was to replicate.

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                    16 Jun 2020, 22:27

                    I'm actually still proud of one design feature of my virus. A virus at that time (MS DOS) was usually detectable by observing that it allocates memory. I had found a block of 512 bytes of memory occupied by the operating system that were usually unused (a part of the "interrupt vector table") where I could put my virus without any memory influence - the first "stealth virus" I knew of. The main challenge was to squeeze the code into 512 bytes, which necessitated hardcore assembly programming. Unfortunately, I didn't have any space left to program any harmful behavior - all the virus did was to replicate.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 16 Jun 2020, 22:37 last edited by
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                    @Klaus said in Still need anti-virus software?:

                    all the virus did was to replicate.

                    Sometimes that is enough

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