Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. The chief of ethics at NIH

The chief of ethics at NIH

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
9 Posts 2 Posters 28 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • G Offline
    G Offline
    George K
    wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 01:09 last edited by
    #1

    Christine Grady

    Screenshot 2022-12-28 at 7.08.58 PM.png

    NTTAWTT

    But...GINNI THOMAS!!!

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

    1 Reply Last reply
    • J Offline
      J Offline
      jon-nyc
      wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 01:26 last edited by
      #2

      I wonder if this is how they met:

      Grady has worked in nursing, clinical research, and clinical care, with a specialization in HIV.[2]

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
      1 Reply Last reply
      • G Offline
        G Offline
        George K
        wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 01:33 last edited by
        #3

        I have no evidence that her, or her husband's activities are/were in any way unethical.

        But the old saw, "Avoid the appearance of impropriety" comes to mind. I'm sure that Grady could have secured a comparable position at NIH if she had thought of this.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

        1 Reply Last reply
        • J Offline
          J Offline
          jon-nyc
          wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 01:37 last edited by jon-nyc
          #4

          George she’s a bioethicist. You should remember what those are from your days at Northwestern. They sit on IRBs and nit pick study protocols.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
          G 1 Reply Last reply 29 Dec 2022, 01:46
          • J jon-nyc
            29 Dec 2022, 01:37

            George she’s a bioethicist. You should remember what those are from your days at Northwestern. They sit on IRBs and nit pick study protocols.

            G Offline
            G Offline
            George K
            wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 01:46 last edited by
            #5

            @jon-nyc said in The chief of ethics at NIH:

            George she’s a bioethicist. You should remember what those are from your days at Northwestern. They sit on IRBs and nit pick study protocols.

            I know, and I don't disagree.

            What study protocols did her committees approve or not approve? Gain of function? Beagles?

            (and yeah, I operated on dogs who were euthanized after my misadventures)

            Again, I have NO KNOWLEDGE of impropriety. None, whatsoever.

            It just looks bad.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

            J 1 Reply Last reply 29 Dec 2022, 02:02
            • J Offline
              J Offline
              jon-nyc
              wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 01:58 last edited by
              #6

              I think it only looks bad if you have a cartoonish RWEC view of Dr Fauci.

              It might look bad if he made her head of bioethics for NIAID, the division he runs. But she’s not part of his organization or his chain of command.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
              G 1 Reply Last reply 29 Dec 2022, 02:05
              • G George K
                29 Dec 2022, 01:46

                @jon-nyc said in The chief of ethics at NIH:

                George she’s a bioethicist. You should remember what those are from your days at Northwestern. They sit on IRBs and nit pick study protocols.

                I know, and I don't disagree.

                What study protocols did her committees approve or not approve? Gain of function? Beagles?

                (and yeah, I operated on dogs who were euthanized after my misadventures)

                Again, I have NO KNOWLEDGE of impropriety. None, whatsoever.

                It just looks bad.

                J Offline
                J Offline
                jon-nyc
                wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 02:02 last edited by
                #7

                @George-K

                What study protocols did her committees approve or not approve? Gain of function? Beagles?

                Since she’s at the NIH’s clinical center, I would assume her department approved studies being conducted by the NIH itself, as opposed to NIH-funded research conducted elsewhere.

                (Fun fact: the NIH ran the original study that isolated AAT from human plasma and infused it in people with my disease. That was done in the clinical center in the 80s. )

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                1 Reply Last reply
                • J jon-nyc
                  29 Dec 2022, 01:58

                  I think it only looks bad if you have a cartoonish RWEC view of Dr Fauci.

                  It might look bad if he made her head of bioethics for NIAID, the division he runs. But she’s not part of his organization or his chain of command.

                  G Offline
                  G Offline
                  George K
                  wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 02:05 last edited by
                  #8

                  @jon-nyc said in The chief of ethics at NIH:

                  It might look bad if he made her head of bioethics for NIAID, the division he runs. But she’s not part of his organization or his chain of command.

                  OK, I can see that.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • J Offline
                    J Offline
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 02:16 last edited by
                    #9

                    By the way, I sit on an OSMB for an NIH-funded trial. In general, like with their grant review process, they staff these things with mostly academics in the relevant field. NIH people do attend but they obviously aren’t necessarily experts in every subject where they issue grants.

                    (“OSMB” or “Observational Study Monitoring Board”, is the equivalent to the “Data Safety Monitoring Board” used in drug trials, the difference is OSMBs are for observational studies whereas DSMBs are for interventional studies. )

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                    1 Reply Last reply
                    Reply
                    • Reply as topic
                    Log in to reply
                    • Oldest to Newest
                    • Newest to Oldest
                    • Most Votes

                    2/9

                    29 Dec 2022, 01:26

                    7 unread

                    • Login

                    • Don't have an account? Register

                    • Login or register to search.
                    2 out of 9
                    • First post
                      2/9
                      Last post
                    0
                    • Categories
                    • Recent
                    • Tags
                    • Popular
                    • Users
                    • Groups