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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 28 Dec 2022, 18:44 last edited by
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    I fucking hated B&N for many years. But I stopped laughing once it became the only legitimate national bookstore available. Where I live now, there's no other credible place to buy books within about 60 miles.

    With massive toy sections, shitty books that only publishers wanted on the shelves, and even shittier coffee at their "cafes," it looked like they were in the same tailspin that book Borders out. But I kept going in just out of habit. I like looking at books.

    Then, James Daunt came in and shook everything up.

    I knew about half the stuff laid out in this article just through personal experience, but the other half was both surprising and not.

    https://tedgioia.substack.com/p/what-can-we-learn-from-barnes-and

    Please love yourself.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 28 Dec 2022, 22:22 last edited by
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      https://www.booksamillion.com

      All we have locally.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        George K
        wrote on 28 Dec 2022, 22:44 last edited by
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        One of the most famous in Chicago was Stuart Brent books, on Michigan Avenue. It's long gone, and I don't know if there are any bookstores in the area anymore.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Mik
          wrote on 28 Dec 2022, 23:41 last edited by
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          My daughter works in an independent non-profit bookstore. These places are apparently very popular with authors, and usually in fairly academic towns. It's a great bookstore.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • M Mik
            28 Dec 2022, 23:41

            My daughter works in an independent non-profit bookstore. These places are apparently very popular with authors, and usually in fairly academic towns. It's a great bookstore.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 00:38 last edited by
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            @Mik said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

            My daughter works in an independent non-profit bookstore. These places are apparently very popular with authors, and usually in fairly academic towns.

            Indeed. They're very author-friendly. Especially locals and up-and-comers.

            Please love yourself.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 00:53 last edited by
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              My daughter used to work round the corner from an independent bookstore that was started up and owned by Jeff Kinney, who wrote The Diary of a Wimpy Kid books. The franchise probably helps quite a bit with the funding.

              It's a really nice friendly place to visit, and they have authors visit, but I'm not sure how many books they sell - it's in a small town (where Jeff Kinney lives, obviously).

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                29 Dec 2022, 00:53

                My daughter used to work round the corner from an independent bookstore that was started up and owned by Jeff Kinney, who wrote The Diary of a Wimpy Kid books. The franchise probably helps quite a bit with the funding.

                It's a really nice friendly place to visit, and they have authors visit, but I'm not sure how many books they sell - it's in a small town (where Jeff Kinney lives, obviously).

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 02:06 last edited by
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                My daughter used to work round the corner from an independent bookstore that was started up and owned by Jeff Kinney, who wrote The Diary of a Wimpy Kid books. The franchise probably helps quite a bit with the funding.

                It's a really nice friendly place to visit, and they have authors visit, but I'm not sure how many books they sell - it's in a small town (where Jeff Kinney lives, obviously).

                I visited a ridiculously small town in Australia—I mean even by their standards it was remote—where everything was named after Spike Milligan. I always wondered what the connection was.

                Please love yourself.

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  29 Dec 2022, 02:06

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                  My daughter used to work round the corner from an independent bookstore that was started up and owned by Jeff Kinney, who wrote The Diary of a Wimpy Kid books. The franchise probably helps quite a bit with the funding.

                  It's a really nice friendly place to visit, and they have authors visit, but I'm not sure how many books they sell - it's in a small town (where Jeff Kinney lives, obviously).

                  I visited a ridiculously small town in Australia—I mean even by their standards it was remote—where everything was named after Spike Milligan. I always wondered what the connection was.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 02:12 last edited by
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                  everything was named after Spike Milligan

                  OK, this needs expansion...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 02:12 last edited by
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                    Waterstone and Borders and some independents - I remember loving to visit various cities for their bookstores. I don't travel any longer. I haven't been in Barnes & Noble in a couple of years. I may have to give it a try. My spouse is a bookaholic as well.

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                      29 Dec 2022, 02:06

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                      My daughter used to work round the corner from an independent bookstore that was started up and owned by Jeff Kinney, who wrote The Diary of a Wimpy Kid books. The franchise probably helps quite a bit with the funding.

                      It's a really nice friendly place to visit, and they have authors visit, but I'm not sure how many books they sell - it's in a small town (where Jeff Kinney lives, obviously).

                      I visited a ridiculously small town in Australia—I mean even by their standards it was remote—where everything was named after Spike Milligan. I always wondered what the connection was.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 03:05 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                      My daughter used to work round the corner from an independent bookstore that was started up and owned by Jeff Kinney, who wrote The Diary of a Wimpy Kid books. The franchise probably helps quite a bit with the funding.

                      It's a really nice friendly place to visit, and they have authors visit, but I'm not sure how many books they sell - it's in a small town (where Jeff Kinney lives, obviously).

                      I visited a ridiculously small town in Australia—I mean even by their standards it was remote—where everything was named after Spike Milligan. I always wondered what the connection was.

                      It wasn't Woy Woy by any chance, was it?

                      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/oct/04/australia.davidfickling

                      I was only joking

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 03:08 last edited by Copper
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                        I worked in the college bookstore for a few years, mid 1970s.

                        B&N might have been our biggest supplier of used text books. I think that was the majority of the business back then. They had a large store in NYC, I remember mostly used books, but I don't think they had much other retail at the time.

                        They have redefined themselves more than once.

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          29 Dec 2022, 03:05

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                          My daughter used to work round the corner from an independent bookstore that was started up and owned by Jeff Kinney, who wrote The Diary of a Wimpy Kid books. The franchise probably helps quite a bit with the funding.

                          It's a really nice friendly place to visit, and they have authors visit, but I'm not sure how many books they sell - it's in a small town (where Jeff Kinney lives, obviously).

                          I visited a ridiculously small town in Australia—I mean even by their standards it was remote—where everything was named after Spike Milligan. I always wondered what the connection was.

                          It wasn't Woy Woy by any chance, was it?

                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/oct/04/australia.davidfickling

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 03:11 last edited by
                          #12

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                          My daughter used to work round the corner from an independent bookstore that was started up and owned by Jeff Kinney, who wrote The Diary of a Wimpy Kid books. The franchise probably helps quite a bit with the funding.

                          It's a really nice friendly place to visit, and they have authors visit, but I'm not sure how many books they sell - it's in a small town (where Jeff Kinney lives, obviously).

                          I visited a ridiculously small town in Australia—I mean even by their standards it was remote—where everything was named after Spike Milligan. I always wondered what the connection was.

                          It wasn't Woy Woy by any chance, was it?

                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/oct/04/australia.davidfickling

                          Holy shit it absolutely was. 😄😄

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 03:33 last edited by
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                            I haven’t visited a Barnes & Noble for a long time. I will make it a point to visit one soon just because of this thread.

                            From the article @Aqua-Letifer linked earlier:

                            … the lesson is so simple. // If you want to sell music, you must love those songs. If you want to succeed in journalism, you must love those newspapers. If you want to succeed in movies, you must love the cinema.

                            Perhaps there are limits to this “simple lesson.” I cannot quite see a resurgence of Block Buster stores based on love for the movies or the cinema. On the political front, does it follow that “if you want to succeed at governing, you must love the government (institutions)”? This would suggest that the “the government is the problem” crowd will not succeed at governing, no?

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 08:20 last edited by jon-nyc
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                              There are two within 5mi of me, 4 within 10. They have large children’s sections and sell puzzles and games too.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus
                                29 Dec 2022, 03:33

                                I haven’t visited a Barnes & Noble for a long time. I will make it a point to visit one soon just because of this thread.

                                From the article @Aqua-Letifer linked earlier:

                                … the lesson is so simple. // If you want to sell music, you must love those songs. If you want to succeed in journalism, you must love those newspapers. If you want to succeed in movies, you must love the cinema.

                                Perhaps there are limits to this “simple lesson.” I cannot quite see a resurgence of Block Buster stores based on love for the movies or the cinema. On the political front, does it follow that “if you want to succeed at governing, you must love the government (institutions)”? This would suggest that the “the government is the problem” crowd will not succeed at governing, no?

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 12:03 last edited by
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                                @Axtremus said in The Bizarre Resurgence of Barnes & Noble:

                                I haven’t visited a Barnes & Noble for a long time. I will make it a point to visit one soon just because of this thread.

                                From the article @Aqua-Letifer linked earlier:

                                … the lesson is so simple. // If you want to sell music, you must love those songs. If you want to succeed in journalism, you must love those newspapers. If you want to succeed in movies, you must love the cinema.

                                Perhaps there are limits to this “simple lesson.” I cannot quite see a resurgence of Block Buster stores based on love for the movies or the cinema. On the political front, does it follow that “if you want to succeed at governing, you must love the government (institutions)”? This would suggest that the “the government is the problem” crowd will not succeed at governing, no?

                                Your lack of reading comprehension is amazing. He wasn't talking about customers, he was talking about the people in leadership positions at companies. Honestly, if you can't be bothered to even read the article, don't comment on it.

                                Please love yourself.

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