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    Jolly
    wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 12:36 last edited by
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    She'll caucus with the Dems, I'm sure.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 12:41 last edited by
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      Yeah, she expects to keep her committee assignments, and Schumacher controls those assignments. Will be hard to keep her committee assignments if she does not caucus with the Democrats.

      Will be interesting to see if she's challenged by a Democrat in the 2024 election.

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        George K
        wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 12:50 last edited by
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        https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/09/sinema-arizona-senate-independent-00073216

        Unlike independent Sens. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) and Angus King (Maine), Sinema won’t attend weekly Democratic Caucus meetings, but she rarely does that now. She isn’t sure whether her desk will remain on the Democratic side of the Senate floor.

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        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Mik
          wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 13:37 last edited by
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          50-50?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Jolly
            wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 13:41 last edited by
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            Wonder what she gets offered to caucus with the GOP?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              George K
              wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 14:35 last edited by George K 12 Sept 2022, 14:36
              #7

              Interesting column at NRO. Some takeaways:

              Beyond the lofty language, what this really reflects is the fact that it would be a challenge for her to win in a Democratic primary.
              Outright switching parties didn’t make much sense. Sinema is still effectively a Democrat. She backed President Biden’s $1.9 trillion left-wing spending spree that helped fuel inflation, and his climate and Obamacare-expansion bill, and is radically pro-abortion. Overall, she has voted against her party just 3 percent of the time. She just hasn’t been willing to go whole hog in embracing radical actions to advance progressivism. Most notably, she has opposed ideas such as blowing up the filibuster and packing the courts, and her objections created roadblocks that contributed to the death of Biden’s $3.5 trillion progressive wish list branded as Build Back Better. That has made her a hate figure among the progressive activists who control the Democratic Party, who even took to following her into a bathroom to harass her.
              So, looking toward a potential 2024 reelection campaign, there was a very real chance that Sinema could have followed the same fate as Joe Lieberman in 2006. The former Connecticut senator had taken heat from his party for remaining supportive of the Iraq War, and he lost the Democratic nomination to an anti-war darling of the left, Ned Lamont. After losing, instead of backing Lamont in the general, Lieberman switched parties and won as an independent, further angering liberals.

              So clearly, Sinema wanted to get a head start in branding herself as an independent to Arizonans. Assuming she decides to run, Democrats will have to make a difficult decision as to whether to run their own candidate, and risk splitting the vote and losing the seat to a Republican, or accepting somebody who will vote with Democrats on most issues. A situation in which there’s Sinema as an independent as well as a Democratic candidate on the November ballot is one in which you can see a Kari Lake get elected to the Senate.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 15:31 last edited by
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                That’s strikes me as spot on.

                Add to that she likes the attention.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • J jon-nyc
                  9 Dec 2022, 15:31

                  That’s strikes me as spot on.

                  Add to that she likes the attention.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 9 Dec 2022, 16:46 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Maverick-ey:

                  Add to that she likes the attention.

                  Well, she is...colorful.

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                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 12 Dec 2022, 13:37 last edited by
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                    Saboteur:

                    The popular progressive US senator Bernie Sanders would consider supporting any Democrat who might mount a challenge against his chamber colleague Kyrsten Sinema after she recently left the party and declared herself an independent like him, arguing that she has “helped sabotage” some of Congress’s most important legislation.

                    Sanders’s comments on Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union added to the chorus of detractors against the Arizona lawmaker who has undermined the agenda of the Joe Biden White House and other progressives, including by voting down raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour and reforming the Senate filibuster so that voting rights legislation can pass.

                    The independent from Vermont who votes in line with Democratic interests told the show host, Dana Bash, that the leftwing party’s members in Arizona were “not all that enthusiastic about somebody who helped sabotage some of the most important legislation that protects the interests of working families and voting rights and so forth”.

                    And, Sanders added, if Arizona Democrats eventually ran someone to challenge the newly-declared independent, “I will take a hard look at” supporting that candidate, though some are concerned that hopeful could unwittingly give Republicans an opening.

                    “I support progressive candidates all over this country – people who have the guts to take on special interests,” said Sanders, adding that he wasn’t interested in speaking much more on Sinema. “I don’t know what’s going to be happening in Arizona – we will see who they nominate.”

                    Sinema voted along the Joe Biden's policies more than...

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                    Bernie Sanders.

                    According to a FiveThirtyEight analysis, Sinema has voted with Biden 93 percent of the time, which is more often than Sanders, who has voted in line with the president's agenda 91 percent of the time.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 12 Dec 2022, 13:56 last edited by
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                      Independence for me but not for thee.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        12 Dec 2022, 13:56

                        Independence for me but not for thee.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 12 Dec 2022, 14:06 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in Maverick-ey Sinema:

                        Independence for me but not for thee.

                        Now, one could make the case that Biden's agenda, which Sanders opposed 8% of the time doesn't match his own. That would make Sinema a more "conformist" Democrat.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 12 Dec 2022, 14:19 last edited by
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                          Bernie's in the wacko party anyway.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            George K
                            wrote on 12 Dec 2022, 18:30 last edited by
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 23 Jan 2023, 14:47 last edited by
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                              https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrat-ruben-gallego-run-krysten-sinemas-senate-seat-rcna66798

                              Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego announced Monday he will run for the Arizona U.S. Senate seat currently held by centrist Sen. Kyrsten Sinema …

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                                23 Jan 2023, 14:47

                                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrat-ruben-gallego-run-krysten-sinemas-senate-seat-rcna66798

                                Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego announced Monday he will run for the Arizona U.S. Senate seat currently held by centrist Sen. Kyrsten Sinema …

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                                George K
                                wrote on 23 Jan 2023, 14:49 last edited by
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                                @Axtremus said in Maverick-ey Sinema:

                                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrat-ruben-gallego-run-krysten-sinemas-senate-seat-rcna66798

                                Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego announced Monday he will run for the Arizona U.S. Senate seat currently held by centrist Sen. Kyrsten Sinema …

                                So, this becomes a 3-way race, right?

                                Unnamed GOP candidate
                                "Independent" Sinema
                                Democrat Gallego

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 23 Jan 2023, 14:58 last edited by
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                                  Enter The Lake...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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