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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Horace said in Universal Suffrage:

    There's no plausible end game for a peasant uprising these days. Riots and looting are as close as we'll get.

    And that chart from Pew which states "middle class has decreased considerably" ignores that the upper income has increased by 33% and the lower has increased by only about 10%.

    No, that chart specifically states that the Upper Class has grown at a higher rate than the Lower Class. It's kinda why I used it... It doesn't state the percentage of increase, but you can clearly see it.

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    Horace
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    @LuFins-Dad said in Universal Suffrage:

    @Horace said in Universal Suffrage:

    There's no plausible end game for a peasant uprising these days. Riots and looting are as close as we'll get.

    And that chart from Pew which states "middle class has decreased considerably" ignores that the upper income has increased by 33% and the lower has increased by only about 10%.

    No, that chart specifically states that the Upper Class has grown at a higher rate than the Lower Class. It's kinda why I used it... It doesn't state the percentage of increase, but you can clearly see it.

    I can only imagine that second paragraph in my post was added inadvertently by Jon as a mod. I didn’t write it.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • George KG George K

      Saw this posted by an attorney:

      "The notion of universal suffrage is inherently defective.

      Giving a degenerate drug addict dependent on societal largess the same vote as the person who builds a business that employs thousands of people is logically AND morally insensible."

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #21

      @George-K said in Universal Suffrage:

      Saw this posted by an attorney:

      It might be amusing to debate whether the massive increase in the number of lawyers in the US has led to a net societal benefit or not, and whether lawyers should be given universal suffrage or possibly suffering.

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      I was only joking

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      • George KG George K

        Saw this posted by an attorney:

        "The notion of universal suffrage is inherently defective.

        Giving a degenerate drug addict dependent on societal largess the same vote as the person who builds a business that employs thousands of people is logically AND morally insensible."

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        LuFins Dad
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        @George-K said in Universal Suffrage:

        Saw this posted by an attorney:

        "The notion of universal suffrage is inherently defective.

        Giving a degenerate drug addict dependent on societal largess the same vote as the person who builds a business that employs thousands of people is logically AND morally insensible."

        I don’t think Hunter Biden’s vote should count as much either, but whatcha going to do?

        The Brad

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          Jolly
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          Y'all are better with the charts than I am.

          They do beg the questions...

          1. Why have more people moved into the upper class?
          2. Why has the percentage of poor Americans increased?
          3. How do we increase and maintain the middle class?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • George KG George K

            @LuFins-Dad said in Universal Suffrage:

            poverty doesn't mean what it used to mean in the US.

            Does "middle class?"

            In 1971, did middle class mean owning 2 cars, owning your home, etc?

            I don't know, just asking.

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            @George-K said in Universal Suffrage:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Universal Suffrage:

            poverty doesn't mean what it used to mean in the US.

            Does "middle class?"

            In 1971, did middle class mean owning 2 cars, owning your home, etc?

            I don't know, just asking.

            In 1971, I think it meant owning your own home, but maybe not two cars, multiple tv's, etc.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG George K

              @LuFins-Dad said in Universal Suffrage:

              poverty doesn't mean what it used to mean in the US.

              Does "middle class?"

              In 1971, did middle class mean owning 2 cars, owning your home, etc?

              I don't know, just asking.

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              @George-K said in Universal Suffrage:

              In 1971, did middle class mean owning 2 cars, owning your home, etc?

              And with obamacare everyone has at least $10k worth, $20+k worth for a couple, of health insurance.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @George-K said in Universal Suffrage:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Universal Suffrage:

                poverty doesn't mean what it used to mean in the US.

                Does "middle class?"

                In 1971, did middle class mean owning 2 cars, owning your home, etc?

                I don't know, just asking.

                In 1971, I think it meant owning your own home, but maybe not two cars, multiple tv's, etc.

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                George K
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                @Jolly said in Universal Suffrage:

                In 1971, I think it meant owning your own home, but maybe not two cars, multiple tv's, etc.

                Looking it up, different sources have different definitions. All of them look at income as related to another measure. For some, it's a certain percentage above poverty level. For others, it's within a certain percentage of mean, or median, income of the population.

                But yeah, I grew up in a pretty middle-class home, and we had one tv in 1971.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Jolly said in Universal Suffrage:

                  In 1971, I think it meant owning your own home, but maybe not two cars, multiple tv's, etc.

                  Looking it up, different sources have different definitions. All of them look at income as related to another measure. For some, it's a certain percentage above poverty level. For others, it's within a certain percentage of mean, or median, income of the population.

                  But yeah, I grew up in a pretty middle-class home, and we had one tv in 1971.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @George-K said in Universal Suffrage:

                  But yeah, I grew up in a pretty middle-class home, and we had one tv in 1971.

                  A 21 inch color TV cost roughly $3300 in today's money in the early 70's.

                  Engineers, not politicians, have made your life better!

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @George-K said in Universal Suffrage:

                    But yeah, I grew up in a pretty middle-class home, and we had one tv in 1971.

                    A 21 inch color TV cost roughly $3300 in today's money in the early 70's.

                    Engineers, not politicians, have made your life better!

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                    George K
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                    #28

                    @Doctor-Phibes yup. Wait till you see what I post next....

                    https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/20940/vintage-tech-ads

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @George-K said in Universal Suffrage:

                      But yeah, I grew up in a pretty middle-class home, and we had one tv in 1971.

                      A 21 inch color TV cost roughly $3300 in today's money in the early 70's.

                      Engineers, not politicians, have made your life better!

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                      Renauda
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                      #29

                      @Doctor-Phibes

                      Engineers, not politicians, have made your life better!

                      Technocracy Rules!

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        Engineers, not politicians, have made your life better!

                        Technocracy Rules!

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                        George K
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                        #30

                        @Renauda said in Universal Suffrage:

                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        Engineers, not politicians, have made your life better!

                        Technocracy Slide Rules!

                        FIFY.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Renauda said in Universal Suffrage:

                          @Doctor-Phibes

                          Engineers, not politicians, have made your life better!

                          Technocracy Slide Rules!

                          FIFY.

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                          Renauda
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                          #31

                          @George-K

                          5555

                          Elbows up!

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